Roach: The shoulder roll will not work against a southpaw.

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  1. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Pea and Winky made their careers off the jab. You just need a really elite jab to make it THAT effective for a southpaw. roach doesn't want to admit that emmanuel's jab isn't good enough for that.
     
  2. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    are you serious Sweetpea was tall ,probably 75% of his opponents were taller than him,You can't be serious Sweetpea was tall.
     
  3. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What he said.
     
  4. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    whats considered tall to you?
     
  5. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    They say that Cotto's Jab would keep Pac away. They also said that against Dela Hoya. So far pac was fast enough to counter those jabs with his straight left. Against another fast fighter who probably has a much better jab than Cotto, let's see how Pacquiao will do against that but so far he's been proving people wrong.
     
  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    I'm not reading this thread but, obviously. Floyd doesn't use his shoulder roll against south paws. He uses orthodox defense.
     
  7. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto jab sucks ,he has none and never did and Oscar never had a jab also he made his money off of his left hook in which he is left handed.
     
  8. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    **Waiting for the gif of Clottey being KD'd from a Cotto jab**

    Cotto has a very solid jab. I'm not sure if you are joking?
     
  9. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Yeah. He was also a lot cautious against Judah and hardly used the shoulder roll.
     
  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Young Mayweather was already able to completely shoulder roll off Judah's left hand by the 5th round of the fight. He was still doing the shoulder roll against Corley and Mitchell. That shoulder roll L guard still works inside of the pocket against southpaw, since Floyd forces the lefty to square their shoulders, taking away their southpaw advantage.
     
  11. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    so does Oscar, wtf:nut
     
  12. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    when floyd nulifies pac's flurry of punches and pac starts to get more and more offensive from being frustrated by floyd, fmj will just keep drawing manny in and score more headshots.

    just because manny throws a lot of shots doesnt mean that he can hit floyd with all of them, floyd is too smart for manny and i am a fan of both fighters.

    floyd will outbox manny and take him to school.
     
  13. fighter86

    fighter86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he doesn't and that was more of a slip and off balance than anything you saw how Clottey was mad about it The jab is the first punch you learn in boxing.Why it sets up other punches for you,some fighters don't know how to step into their jab which is why they don't use it.Its all about timing.
     
  14. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Name 10 active fighters with more effective jabs than Oscar and Cotto.

    And, don't even think of saying Khan.
     
  15. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :rofl Yet you're the one who's making false quotes...hey, dont get mad at me because you've showed your true colors! I'm not repeating nothing...Its in my signature so the posters can see how dumb and how little you know.

    So please explain to me why you had to make quotes up to express your true feelings???

    You constantly talking about how I look and all of this other stuff wont erase the fact you dont know **** about boxing outside on Pacman!:rofl:lol:

    Keep it up buddy! You're making a fool out of yourself!