Frazier beats Wlad...

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  1. Big_Bill_Bronzy

    Big_Bill_Bronzy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are pathetic...
     
  2. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I mean, this is incredibly simplistic.

    Look at the skill level of his contemporaries and compare them to Wlad. If we look at fighters from an overall skill perspective, look at how much better true ATG's are.

    Look at Louis for instance.

    His combination at 1:20 seconds is something Wlad could only dream of throwing.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5zkE4BkMgg[/ame]

    That's PFP tallent right there. Not one dimensional, not a man that has a style predicated on protecting his chin. And Louis was what, 210 lbs?

    Here he is again...vs a Wlad clone. A guy even bigger than Wlad at 260 lbs. Louis had no trouble knocking him out.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ovh8VkTxYI[/ame]

    And while it's easy for people to say, Klitschko is so much better, but film doesn't lie.

    Carnera has the same defensive flaws that Klitschko has, which include backing up in straight lines, and basically using his height as his defense.

    Wlad is a man that is already known for having no chin. And if these "tiny" guys can destroy a monster like that, what makes you think Wlad is invulnerable?

    Especially considering Wlas has already been knocked out by BUMS.
     
  3. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, you are.

    You are so deluded by nut hugging, that you can't let old fashioned objective consideration help you formulate an intelligent opinion.

    Again, is it untrue that Wlad has been knocked out by journeymen?

    Is it untrue that Wlad doesn't open up like he used to?

    Is it untrue that Wlad fights extremelly tenatively?
     
  4. Big_Bill_Bronzy

    Big_Bill_Bronzy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    100% moron. :lol: Cardena... I'm not a nuthugger, i don't even like the K's. But, you have to be a ****ing sick ******* to compare the caliber...
     
  5. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Showing a Joe Louis highlight doesn't mean **** as it relates to Wlad vs Frazier. Frazier was smaller,couldn't throw combinations like that, and was more of a one-punch fighter than Louis ever was.
     
  6. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    This post is absolutely on the money

    Fairplay :good
     
  7. Nosbor

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    After a Wlad KO we usually get explanations as to why he would lose to guys like Cooney, Quarry, Morrison and the Brit-tards usually throw in Frank Bruno!
     
  8. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    It's pretty simple really. Frazier wins, or Wlad DQs himself. This is assuming there is fair play within a neutral ground.
     
  9. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both big men, clumsy at times, have the same defensive tendencies, and if you compare the two films side by side, move exactly the same way.

    Same speed and all.
     
  10. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad is troubled by pressure and speed. The fact that he has been fighting superheavies makes him look good because these guys lack speed.

    Smaller guys have the speed to do what these big targets cannot do.

    You are right though. I showed that clip because Louis was 205-210 lbs himself, but had no problem knocking out well.....anyone.

    He also possesed PFP skill as he had a complete aresnal of punches and defensive ability. It shows that heavies don't have to be limited to basically 2 punches and a lot of holding, and that they can actually possess a full array of skills as well.
     
  11. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    you do realize that primo carnera was merely a sideshow act right? nearly, if not all of his fights were fixed until this point. he was a complete bum, but had size and looked scary so he always had an audience. none of this holds any water. louis was a great fighter who often fought big, stationary fighters (ie baer) so he was able to throw combinations like that. you can't be dumb enough to actually think a professional figher, especially one like wlad, can't throw a simple combination like that. the fact is that he doesn't need to.
     
  12. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What's funny is how people on here are saying Frazier and Peter are about the same
    size!
    and Peter is bigger than Foreman:lol:
    they don't even know how big Frazier was............
     
  13. Nosbor

    Nosbor Boxing Addict banned

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    Bert Sugar says that Carnera would beat both Klitschko's!:lol::lol::lol: Wally Mathews, some N.Y. based boxing writer/broadcaster has made similar claims.

    Sorry; Did not mean to hijack the tread's direction...
     
  14. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    a lot of experts have made these "claims". you have a source for sugar saying that?
     
  15. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well i recall
    most of the socalled sports writers said that Byrd was gonna beat Waldimir easy in their IBF title fight, even after the first fight,
    so i don't much of their claims:lol:...