What Fighters Acheived Greatness In The Shortest Time?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    What fighters had a extremely low number of fights but still managed to become great?

    Ernesto Marcel is heavily considered to be a great fighter judging from recent discussion. He had a total of 46 fights. Certainly not a short career but many modern fighters have more.

    Jeff Fenech only had 33, which makes him a great example for this thread. Fenech burned extremely bright, and in doing so burned out quickly.

    Oscar De La Hoya has a total of 45, making him a decent example.

    In the same vein as Fenech, Joe Frazier only had 37.

    People forget Spinks only fought 31 times, but in a LHW division as deep as that one that's all it took.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    James J Jeffries is the definitive example here.
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I thought of him all of 2 minutes after I posted this thread. :lol:
     
  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Anyone here consider Hamed great? :nut
     
  5. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well Leon Spinks won the Heavyweight Championship in his 8th fight..

    Mike Tyson was Heavyweight Champion a little over a year after turning pro.

    Evander Holyfield was Cruiserweight Champion after 14 fights.
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Jung Koo Chang? Took him 6 years to beat the likes of Zapata, Torres, and Chitalada and defend his WBC title 11 times. Would rack up 15 defenses in 8 years.
     
  7. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Annnnd Leon Spinks is not a great fighter. Next.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I think Saldivar although having a few years experianced basically became great in 3 fights, as he won the Mexican title at Feather and got a chance against Laguna that then led to him beating Ramos.

    That is basically 3 fights from being unknown to world champion within a year. Secured his greatness for a lot of people.

    Not the best example but I thought it deserved a mention.
     
  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Henry Armstrong for his three year run from 37 to 40.
     
  10. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Muhammad ali became the best he would ever be in his 27th fight - that's pretty quick - and he'd also won the heavyweight title - shocked the world - (arguably) "beat" his most dangerous opponent he would ever face and already defended the title 6 times and he was still only 25 - and he'd already suffered 2 of the 4 knockdowns he would suffer in his entire career and already beaten 3 sometime world champs - not bad going
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak banned Full Member

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    Brian Nielsen.

    Next.
     
  12. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Patterson and Tyson

    Their styles fit the situation of early success the best
     
  13. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson pinning prime Fritzie Zivics ears back as a one yr pro.
    Nothing else compares!
     
  14. Seamus

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    WORD!

    I am constantly appalled at how UNDERRATED SRR is on this board.

    Damn you all.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    You are forgetting SRL, who had just 40 total and did so much.

    I know this doesn't quite go in tune with your desired criteria of "total" fights, but i feel like a ramble. (I see most haven't picked up on your chosen criteria, maybe the wording "total career fights" needed to be used)

    The bigger question is do we use hindsight and make our own assumption at what exact time they crossed the "greatness" frontier? Or do we use the public mark? Was SRL great after the Duran rematch, at 28 fights? I'd say yes. Duran with only one top win at the 28 fight mark, tho raw, could have been great already and simply needed time to prove it. If we do include Fenech as a great, he may have reached it winning the Callejas fight in just his 19th stouch.

    The public took forever to accept Holmes. Tyson by comparison was welcomes into the club of greatness with open arms due to many intangibles. Boxing and the heavyweights badly needed an exciting saviour, his destruction overwhelming of the division etc.A guy like Curry was accepted (The talk of the time imo, tho premature with hindsight) in a flash, but then had it taken from him.

    Then we have guys like Bobby Foster, when did they achieve it? Pretty plain division and sustained success was his friend rather than star studded wins.

    We have many that don't qualify that either fought on forever or came back and ran up many fights.

    Interesting thread.