Prime Fedor Vs Prime Couture

Yes....they promised to make him the best paid fighter in the entire sport. What *******s.

 

Ahhh so clueless its almost cute. First off Fedor is already the richest MMA fighter of all times. Secondly the UFC nixed the bout and prevented Randy from fighting for any other organisation whilst they were in litigation.

 

I rate Couture, but I do not think this would be a close fight at all. Fedor by KO after a dominant performance.

 

So I imagined that the reason Randy Couture tried to leave the UFC was because he was pissed that the UFC had offered Fedor more than him? And then I imagined that several respected media outlets confirmed that Fedor was offered a deal on a par with Brock Lesnar if he had signed in 2009. And I imagined Fedor's brother coming out and attacking M-1 for screwing his brother out of millions of dollars, and putting their interests first. And I imagined that the likes of Brock Lesnar are getting a cut of multi-million dollaor pay per views whilst Fedor is fighting on showtime events barely seen by anybody. Right, gotcha.

 

I see you're clearly new to the sport either that or just plain stupid.
When Fedor was in Affliction the UFC was NOT courting Fedor. This only occured after Affliction folded. So im not entirely sure what your blabbering on about or even the relavence of the topic you're bringing up which has zero bearing on the case in point.
Randy took the UFC to court over a pay dispute. The UFC took out an injuction against him and prevented him from fighting for ANY other org until their dispute was settled. During that time when Fedor was a free agent and in Affliction Couture was more than willing to fight Fedor. The two wanted to fight. The only barrier was the UFC injunction.
Now go away child adults are talking.

 

No. You are wrong. The UFC made him an offer when they purchased Pride in 2007, the talks breaking down in October. Get your facts right before throwing idiotic insults. As part of those talks they made him a financial offer that was in excess of what Couture was being paid. This angered Couture and led to him trying to get out of his freely signed contract with the UFC.

 

:deal

 

You're point has ZERO relavence. First off Fedor has around a 20% stake in M-1. Compare that with the contract the UFC were offering him after PRIDE's demise and the maths is quite simple. They only upped their offer after Affliction folded. Fedor is/was far better off outside of the UFC financially.
Either way its academic as it has zero bearing on the fact that the UFC did NOT allow Couture to fight for other promotions and thus denied the fight at NYE under the DREAM banner or Affliction.
And just incase you didnt know Randy had disputes with UFC over compensation when compared with Liddell who was making more money despite loosing, and the fact that Dana hadnt signed Fedor which was a fight Couture wanted. Fundamentally though Coutures dispute was entirely over his pay from the UFC and had **** all to do with Fedor recieving a better offer from the UFC. Fedor's not even a UFC fighter and thus doesnt recieve any money from them! So much for your facts aye.

 

Okay. Let me say this very slowly.

Randy is the reigning UFC heavyweight champion.

He hears that the UFC has offered Fedor more money than he is recieving.

This pisses him off. Adding to other grievances. He therefore announces that he's leaving from the organization.

And I like how you've gone from saying "they never offered him a deal until Affliction folded" to "well they didn't offer him a REAL offer until Affliction folded". Bravo.

And the relevance is about your original point that the reason we didn't get Fedor vs. Couture is the UFC, not M-1. The UFC has twice made Fedor very generous offers to fight for the organisation, under the same terms that every other high-level fighter has at some point. He was offered generous terms both times and both times turned them down, without any rational explanation in 2009. We could have had Fedor vs. Couture, Fedor vs. Lesnar, etc if Fedor and the people that surround hadn't deliberately priced him out of every signing with the UFC.

 

And I don't understand why the UFC should let fighters they have signed to exclusive contracts fight for other organizations. The whole point of an exclusive contract, is that its EXCLUSIVE!

 

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If you don't know wtf you are talking about just stfu please....

The reason why Fedor didn't sign with the UFC isn't because of the money. It's because he wasn't allowed to compete in Sambo tournament and if he was the champion he was bound by contract to defend it's title 8 times and if he lost 1 fight the UFC could just fire him without any warning. The reason why Fedor didn't sign with the UFC it's because Fedor is an intelligent guy and he know he doesn't need the UFC. Only zuffa zombie keep bringing how Fedor needs to destroy Brock, JDS, Cain Velasquez...

 

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Couture[/ame]

On October 11, 2007, Couture announced that he was severing all ties with the UFC, leaving two contracted fights, a position as an on-air analyst, and his heavyweight championship behind. He reportedly received $250,000, plus $936,000 of PPV revenue, for his comeback against Tim Sylvia. He also reportedly received a $250,000 purse for defeating Gabriel Gonzaga, as well as a $35,000 bonus for "Fight of the Night" and $787,000 in PPV revenue.[23] This became a sticking point since Chuck Liddell lost his two previous fights yet is still being paid more, according to Couture.[[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"]citation needed[/ame]] Couture cited the UFC's failure to sign #1 ranked heavyweight fighter [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko"]Fedor Emelianenko[/ame], as well as disputes with UFC management.

Cornering some of his fighters from Xtreme Couture at [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDNet_Fights"]HDNet Fights[/ame] on December 15, 2007, in Dallas, Texas, Couture answered questions about Fedor, stating that he would like to fight him in October once his employment contract with the UFC has expired, if the UFC cannot come to some kind of co-promotion agreement with M-1 Global before that time.[31]
On Jan. 15, 2008, Zuffa (the UFC's parent company) filed a lawsuit in [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevada_District_Courts"]Clark County District Court[/ame] in Nevada citing breach of contract and irreparable damage.[32] [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zuffa"]Zuffa[/ame] is seeking over $10,000 in damages. This suit concerns only Couture's employment contract and not his promotional contract. On February 28, 2008 Judge Jennifer Togliatti handed down the first ruling in the case of Zuffa v. Randy Couture issuing a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preliminary_injunction"]preliminary injunction[/ame] barring Couture's participation in an IFL event to be held the following day.




You wouldnt even make a half baked politician. Your rambling on about a mooted contract between Fedor and the UFC that has/had no relavence at the time Fedor and Couture wanted to make the fight outside of the UFC circa late 2007/08.

 

Yes. Talks with Fedor breakdown in September. A couple of weeks later Randy Couture quits the UFC after being employed by Zuffa for six years. Yes COMPLETE COINCIDENCE.

And as for half-baked ramblings...nothing can beat your complete inability to understand what a binding contract is. Or that M-1 is a joke company, unheard of by 90% of MMA fans.

 

Where did I say he rejected the 2007 offer because of pay? I didn't...not once. So stop putting words in my mouth. Yes you are right, he rejected because he wanted to keep competing in Sambo. And guess what? In 2009 the UFC changed the offer and would've allowed him to take part in Sambo.

And yes...only Zuffa zombies ask that Fedor fight the top, young heavyweights in the sport. But go ahead, keep talking about how victories in 2003 prove that he's the best heavyweight in the sport today. I'll be overhere explaining how Zidane is still the best footballer and Lennox Lewis the best heavyweight boxer.

 

Your opinion of M1 or its merits is of no importance. What is amusing though about this little discussion is your ability to manufacture lies, and then when called out on it change the topic to one that has no bearing on the topic at hand.