How Can A War "Ruin" A Fighter?

You just don't want to go thru the pain again.

(David Reid as a example)

 

Its a bit of both.

Some punishment is career ending.

Chris Byrd and Roy Jones losing their punch resistance is clearly physical.

David Reid was never the same after Trinidad. Neither was Vargas, or Mayorga IMO.

 

It can physically, especially if you end up getting knocked out in such a grueling war. Not in all cases but it seems sometimes your punch-resistance sometimes isn't quite the same. Even if it is psychological to a large degree, I don't think Miguel Cotto was ever capable of being physically better after the Margarito fight. I do think that mentally you're always affected more than physically. But, Roy Jones didn't ever really take a lot of solid punches but it seemed possible that after getting KOed that he wasn't ever able to take a punch as well earlier. Diaz punch resistance seems to gotten worse since the fight Marquez fight. Hard to say, though.

 

that is a great question, i have thought about this alot myself. i think it is more mental then any physical.

i agree with mcgrain, maybe the brains ability to process commands or analyze situations could be altered by constant batterings and concussions (im not a doctor just speculating.)


i also agree with longhorn, "you just dont want go through that pain again". as much as a fighter may love to fight, your getting abused and punished. truly a truamatic nightmare in my eyes that you need to mentally asses and overcome at your own terms which may leave you at least temporarily in ruins.

 

Can a totally re-conditioned, cherried-out Lamborghini ever be the same after a head-on collision?

 

McGrain brings up a nice point there, hadn't thought of that.

I was going to mention David Reid when I saw this thread. I think I might disagree about him being merely gunshy, though. I recall seeing him fight after Trinidad, and I think there was something physically wrong with him. His balance was horrible, and I don't mean in a technical sense. I mean he'd stagger just walking across the ring. I think something happened to him and short circuited his gray matter to an extent in that fight. He took a prolonged beating against Trinidad, and seemed like he was an old man immediately afterward.

 

wars and tough fights wear a guy down, there are only so many wars in a fighter and some guys get ruined from one bad fight. In a war is when a fighter gives his best, is in life and death...it takes its toll-win-lose or draw

B-Hop is still preserved because he avoided wars, his style is perfect to avoid them. I remember a fighter Barry McGuigan, seemed like all his fights were wars and they went into late rds, then all of a sudden one fight he fizzled out...burned out...same happened to Matthew Saad Muhammad

Archie Moore had a perfect style of boxer,cagey cat and had tremendous power, The Marciano fight was a bad beat-down for him and although his cagey wits kept him active for another 44 fights- 38-4-2 he was never really the same

Tyson was never the same after Holyfield 2 but the mind has recall and it lingers

 

Ask Jersey Joe Walcott and Ezzard Charles

 

true, the 1st fight with Marciano were sooo-hard on the body and you run out of juice in the rematch...

Its not fun to face a guy like Marciano back too back, already knowing there is no quit in this relentless bull who punches all over non stop...the body can take so much and you burn out

 

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