Prime Fedor Vs Prime Couture

From memory the UFC still didnt allow an M1-banner on or around the stage. The only place that M1-Global could put their logo was on Fedor's shorts. It was basically a token gesture.

The UFC offered nothing extravagant and definitely not the millions harped on by Zuffa Zombies. It was basically in line with what Brock currently gets i.e. $400k guaranteed and a PPV cut. Strikeforce was able to better the deal (according to M1) and have $400k, copromotion and rights to international broadcasts as well as free to air showings.

LOOK AT 2:10 WHERE - RE CHAMPIONS CLAUSE AND ONE SIDED CONTRACT WHERE ZUFFA COULD CUT OR DECREASE THE INITIALLY AGREED MONEY.
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M1 and its management has existed far longer than the current UFC without a change in ownership, Vadim has headed and steered the ship since its inception. M1-Global do allot of shows, events, TV programs, and even reality shows in Europe. Who are these "managements fighters that you talk about"? for a long while only Fedor was signed as a long term fighter, everyone else was a contractor free to leave and fight other promotions. Gegard even wanted to have the same deal as Fedor, but was denied by M1's vice president Sergei Matvienko.

Its pathetic that your trying to blame M1 for Affliction and Bodogs demise. Affliction shut down their MMA promotion after the UFC told them to once again become their clothing line and to stop competing against Zuffa.

 

As someone who occassionally catches these "M-1" events, I have to say that this is the most moronic thing I have ever read. I would argue against it but **** it, life's too short.

 

Wow great argument there buddy. Its very hard to argue when you know im correct, hey I even have a video for Beebs outlining why Fedor didnt sign.

Let me try that one as a Zuffa fan who occasionally catches UFC events, I have to say that Zuffa is bad for the sport and protecting its fighters from fighting the best in the world.

 

No please argue against it. You got shown up as typical lying UFC schill in another thread. Why dont you give us some more of your inside info on Fedor's inability to sign with the UFC.

 

I'm pretty sure I said there was no argument because I couldn't be arsed.

But let me expand slightly on that point. It is moronic to claim that M-1 is a real MMA promotion. If it was half as successful as you claim, then Fedor would be fighting on these wonderful M-1 events rather than be sold across the world to anybody who will pay M-1 a kings ranson.

It is moronic to think that selling the international rights to a strikeforce show would compare with a pay per view cut from a Lesnar fight. As you said he was basically offered the same deal as Lesnar - many media outlets have put his pay for UFC100 as somewhere between 3million and 4milllion. No way in hell does M-1 earn $2.4million from rights fees - in most countries Fedor fights are not broadcast live, and are on inferior channels to the UFC. Hell they were reduce to putting the Rogers fight on i-PPV in the UK (prob the biggest non-US/Japan MMA market).

The UFC said that Fedor could display M-1 like any other sponsor - on his shorts, on his banner and even mention them in post-fight comments. Given that M-1 would NOT be paying Fedor and would NOT be providing any other fighters for the show, I see no reason why the UFC should give them anything else.

On Affliction you couldn't be more stupid and wrong. Afflcition folded because it paid too much money to fighters who didn't draw enough money at the gate and in ppv buys. Barnett's was the trigger for their collapse. To blame the UFC is just to expose yourself as a conspiracy theorist...which again would make you a moron.

So moronic are you that you don't notice you prove the arguments of those doubting M-1. "for a long while only Fedor was signed as a long term fighter, everyone else was a contractor free to leave and fight other promotions". ITS NOT A REAL PROMOTION! They're sucking money out of Fedor, they're only real asset and denying fans the chance to see him in the biggest fights. Any fan of Fedor should hate these ****ing parasites, not huge their nuts.

And you know the reason I don't really want to argue with you is that I really pity you. You're so full of hatred and bile towards the UFC that you're missing one of the best year's in MMA history. From April onwards the UFC has been great to watch, with great fights, memorable moments and genuine shocks. But no keep hating on Dana White if you want...us sane people will just get on with following the sport and enjoying it.

 

Yes of course I'm a lying shill...that's why you went awfully quiet when I went through your nonsense point by point.

 

He does tend to do that when you come up with some facts. He just quotes Wankstain Lane but has the cheek to call everyone else Zuffa Zombies

 

Yeah you sure got me Talking to you is the equivalent of talking to a rock. I dont see the neccesity to repeat myself. Additionally i posted an article that explained clearly the Couture UFC debacle. You on the other hand are more than willing to continue to post lies and believe whatever the UFC are willing to hand you.

 

1) M1-Global is a proper registered company, a proper MMA registered promotion, with branches in Russia, Holland, America = CAN YOU DISPROVE THIS?
2) M1-Global has held many international events as well as local events = CAN YOU DISPROVE THIS?
3) M1-Global has broadcasting contracts with major television channels from around the world in Asia, Americas, and Europe. They even have their own reality shows and other TV programs = CAN YOU DISPROVE THIS?
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Finally the main reason Fedor isn’t fighting in the M1-Selection and M1-Challenge events is because these events are specifically geared at new up and coming fighters, these things are meant to give them the opportunity to showcase their talents. This talent finding goal has been the main purpose of M1-Global and has been since its inception. Vadim who at the time was a successful businessman was initially courted by mixfight to help promote MMA in Russia.

Lucky UFC fighters get a cut of PPV sales in America only, and nothing afterwards. Fedor on the other hand gets a 20% cut from ALL retransmission of his fights from around the world. His fights are shown in the number 1 free to air channels in many countries including those in Russia and Korea. Ion Russia alone, Fedors fight garnered 20 million viewers. Fedor/M1-Global also owns the rights of these footage and so will continue profiting long after the actual event.

That 3-4mil projections are just that, projections that are based on a very optimistic and unachievable viewership. They tried to push this garbage down on Fedor but unlike Brock, Fedor was already a popular and highly accomplished fighter who didn’t need the UFC.

Do you actually believe Zuffa and Dana? Dana especially has flipped flopped his stories with many fighters (i.e. Kimbo) and especially Fedor. Dana was trying to hype up Fedor as the best fighter at one stage, all these changed when he realised that they wouldn’t be signing him.............afterwards calling him garbage and over rated.

Fedor is an M-1 Global fighter who is also a part owner of the company, Fedor built up his image and his record outside the UFC. The UFC on the other hand wants to profit from this without having to compromise on the major issues. Having a little logo on your pants and mentioning M1 in post fights comment is basically useless since M1-Global can also achieve all these things (and then some) with Strikeforce. They rightly went with the better deal.

Your grasp of business and negotiation is at a ******ed level. Fedor and M1-Global along with every other fighter has the right to demand the most for their services. Its up to Afflictions management and accounting dept to balance the money coming in and the money going out. Affliction simply didn’t have the expertise being a clothing company, they grew too fast and too soon, and didn’t have a clear goal in mind. HOWEVER before Affliction folded, it was the UFC that broke the camels back by requesting that Affliction shut down its MMA promotion (which is in competition with the UFC) before they could be allowed back in the UFC as a clothing sponsor.

Stop changing your story, was it Fedor/M1 that your blaming or Barnett for failing the drug test? If it was Barnett then why are you trying to blame Fedor/M1 when they followed their previously agreed to contract to the letter?

Fedor has a 20% ownership of M1-Global. Many fighters would kill to be in the same position as Fedor, with a long lasting and solid contract, and a very generous package. Even Gegard wanted the same deal as Fedor (minus the ownership), M1-Global turned him down.

Even ask Rampage Jackson what he wants. In one of his videos he talks about wanting to be a fighter and having a percentage of a promotional company. Basically in a nutshell, Rampage wasnts what Fedor has.

SEE 6:10 TO SEE RAMPAGE WANT TO PROMOTE HIS OWN SHOWS AND QUESTION WHY DANA GETS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS WHILE THE FIGHTERS GETS PEANUTS.
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Actually I pity someone like you who cant even distinguish between MMA and UFC, who cant appreciate or even watch fights outside Zuffa, and who obviously do not fully know the past great fights of MMA. In that time there have been a couple of drug cheats/accusations to title fighters, some woeful performances from some of their hyped up fighters, may boring fights and same good fights. You obviously don’t follow MMA if you think that this year has been one of the best years of MMA.

We call these people who only recognise and realise UFC as Zuffa Zombies....for the rest of us MMA loving fans we chose to also follow M1 events, Dream events, Strikeforce events etc etc etc.

 

So why is Fedor signed to Strikeforce?

 

To make a long answer short. To keep his soul.

Because with M-1 and SF he can still control his carreer. I think the main thing Fedor didn't like was the champion close and the fact the UFC could have cut him without any warning if he loose.

In the end they agreed for the sambo championship but Fedor prefered the contract with M-1. Maybe in the short run the contract with the UFC would have been more lucrative but I honestly think that in the long run, the M-1 global contract is alot ****in better.

 

Fedor would kill Couture. Couture in his prime is not as good as people think.

 

Bit of confusion ere fella. I was adressing Moron's post about M1 bein a legit promotion and not leaches milking Fedor for every penny they can get. Not that any other promotion/management team would be any better

 

My mistake then !

 

Fedor isnt signed as a Strikeforce fighter, he is an M1-Global fighter who competes against the best Strikeforce fighters - in a co-promoted event between his company and Strikeforce.

Again prove to me that what your saying is the truth, present facts that M1-Global isnt a legit promotional company. Son sorry to disappoint you but the pillow talk between you and Dana have been lies.

Obviously M1 benifits from Fedor but Fedor also benifit from M1, especially when he has a 20% company ownership. This is far better than these UFC fighters.....Shane Carwin for example only got $40k for his fight against Brock, this fight was one of the most watched in the UFC history and also netted Dana White many many many many millions of dollars.

Again look at the Rampage video where he goes off about how fighters are being ripped off by Dana White and the Zuffa sisters.