10 greatest mexican fighters of all time?

i meant out of the mexican list, but while we're on it Lopez is 1/2 of a class above DeJesus

 

Another obscenely funny and ridiculous post from you addie Comparing Nunn to Sanchez is boxing blasphemyatsch I was once in awe of Nunns skills but you used a bad example.

Even if Sanchez did loose he would never have faded into obscurity:nono He had already sealed his greatness with those wins and title defenses. Michael Nunn had great skills but never achieved greatness.

 

The only problem I have with Sanchez (his staunchest supporters, moreso) is the automatic assumption that he'd have continued un-interrupted on the path he was blazing, and that he surely had more improving to do because of his age. In my opinion he was an early bloomer, a guy who reached his prime at a young age through a combination of top flight experience and a style he'd been able to develop fully over the past 8 years. We don't know whether or not he'd have simply gone the way of the Tyson's and Benitez's of the world and fall from grace shortly afterward.

Given the track record of early bloomers of that ilk I'd probably assume that to be the more likely outcome than him continuing on the road he was for years to come. Especially when you factor in the potential fights he still had coming against the likes of Pedroza, Arguello (were he to have moved up), etc.

 

Winstone had cramp, Laguna needed a poo, Ramos didnt train and Seki was past his prime. No disrespect but, thats basically what you just did and it happens every single debate on here. Laguna, Winstone and Ramos do not match up to Sanchez's top 3, no way in ****, bra

 

Likely. It's the only one of the fights I mentioned I haven't actually seen, although I've heard it's out there. Then again, Laguna wasn't really one to impose size/strength, although the legs and reach had to have given him a few distinct advantages. Saldivar was just a tank.

 

Durans dad was a Mexican Amercian serviceman when he hooked up with his mom, so Duran has half Mexican blood.

Id say resume wise Lopez is better than Dejesus. Skill wise Dejesus was better, Lopez is an atg puncher. Dejesus win over Duran counts for a lot though:think Overall pretty close.

I agree though Sanchez has the best 3 wins compare to the other ones however, if you look at the whole picture you can make a case for quite a few of the other Mexican greats. Overall Chavez has the better resume.

 

Bring on the emoticons, you man-child, you. :blood

I think I was on point. His career could have gone one of two ways. He goes on to solidify himself as perhaps the greatest Mexican fighter of all time, or he burns out and fades into obscurity. He got quite a lot of work done in a short period of time, there's no telling what was going to happen as his career progressed.

 

:huhWhat did I basically just do? I made no excuses for any of the wins, I was simply giving my opinion of the circumstances. I believe they were all excellent wins, but do you deny what I pointed out regarding any of them? If so, that's fine. In fact I know quite a few would disagree with my assessment of Gomez at around that time. It's just something I believe having watched almost all of his fights.

I don't see how you can so casually dismiss Saldivar's wins in comparison, though. I think they were certainly on a par.

 

:rofl:yep

 

Hey Bujia how far past it do you think Saldivar was when Shibata stopped him?

 

:yep

 

Quite a ways. He'd come off a nearly two year retirement in between his bouts with Winstone and Legra, and was a full 3 years removed from his last bout with Winstone (the end of his prime for me, quite clearly) by the time Shibata overwhelmed him physically. I just don't think he could keep up with a fresher fighter of that class and style at that stage of his career. He'd just lost it by then based on what I watched.

He was downright shot against Jofre, although some have given a go at blowing that win up to mean something that doesn't hold much weight for me.

 

Addie i dont think you really understand how beloved Sanchez is to the Mexican fans. So save all that Obscurity bull****:roll: Yey i know your comeback will be "well he died young and as a champion so his legend grew bla bla bla bla"

You dont realize how big the Gomez win was that triumphs any potential loss Sanchez might have had (had he not died). Anyways Addie just cause your an expert on Barrera, doesnt qualify you to even have a clue how beloved he is to his countreyman . Your a prime example of newb you tube generation fan who dont have a feel for how important these wins were. If you were a fan back then you would have a feel for how big that win was and how the "fading into obscurity statement" would never have came out your mouth.

 

Neither can rank higher than Chavez IMHO.

 

My goodness, you took my comments out of context again didn't you, Anarci?

Sanchez could have lost and faded into obscurity in the sense that he'd no longer be relevant at world level because his confidence would be shot, and not all fighters deal well with devastating defeats. It could well be a stretch to even contemplate this happening, but I didn't mean fade into obscurity in the sense that Mexican fans would no longer care about him, and he wouldn't be talked about among the great Mexicans years on. As you say, Sanchez' legend was solidified but it probably grew to even greater heights with his premature death. We almost take for granted that he'd have gone on to do incredible things, when we don't really know for sure, do we?

Spare me the You Tube bollocks. I watch fights daily, many of them that took place before I was born, doesn't make me any less of a fan of the sport than you. You may have been around for fights in the 80s and 90s, but you're still a dumb ****. :good