Paul Williams: 'I've never seen Pacquiao ducking anybody'

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by johnnydrama, Sep 16, 2010.


  1. Interceptor

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    If his name were Paul Gonzalez he'd be a hero.
     
  2. JamesR

    JamesR ***** Full Member

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    god i hate paul williams! a fight with him and pac would be a terrible mismatch but saying that PW doesn know how to use his reach advantage as good as he should so pac could tag him...... imagine the wiegh in:rofl
     
  3. ApatheticLeader

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    Why? - they are both welterweights.
     
  4. Interceptor

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    You have little man's syndrome:deal
     
  5. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    thats funny... ive never seen paul williams fight anybody

    he's allways too busy getting 'avoided'
     
  6. Aztecas

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  7. Aztecas

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    Paul ducked Kelly Pavlik many times.
    paul ducked Sergie L
    Paul is now ducking a Kermit Cintron rematch.
     
  8. johnnydrama

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    AHAHAHA!!:rofl You made that all up by yourself?:lol: You silly as **** man.:rofl The judge came out and said he made a mistake. He didn't KNOW!:patsch Why are you trying so hard to discredit PAC by coming up with "your own story"?:huh It's not that serious kid. Relax...

    Intential butt or not...being "ROBBED" has nothing to do with a headbutt. Headbutts happen all the time but PAC did more damage and won the rematch. So the right man won in a great, competitive fight.

    Soto? Seriously? Soto beat Bobby but he's not anywhere near PAC's level and you know that. Soto knows that too. He didn't get the fight b/c he wasn't lucky enough....PAC can't fight everyone....Solis was a better financial opition b/c he was able to get a bigger split.

    Soto didn't have better fan base in the US than David Diaz. Neither have much to brag about but Diaz was a title shot at anther weight class that PAC took...it was a great move.

    Joan couldn't outclass Ali Funeka...he'd have a hell of a time outclassing PAC kid. Don't get it twisted. "Joan Guzman, outclassing PAC??!!"......:rofl Funny.

    PAC is actually fighting opposition at a level that embarrasses Floyd. Which is why it's understandable Floyd has been completely taken out of his comfort zone. He's doing things he normally never would have...he's having a hard time keeping his excuses straight on why he "can't fight" Manny. He's saying outrageous things that are even extreme for Floyd. He's even lost the "urge" to do his job all the sudden.

    Being scared has a profound effect on people......Floyd especially from the looks of it.
     
  9. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Kelly Pavlik ducked Paul Williams. Paul is gonna fight Sergio Martinez, who is a better fighter than Cintron. And Cintron ducked wanting to continue to fight Williams.
     
  10. Aztecas

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    Only referees can take points away for fouls. Judges cant.
    Thats why the judge said he "scored it wrong" because it cannot be reversed. But if the Judge had said that he "took a point away because Pac fouled JMM" it would be reversed.

    I didn't make that up. Just look at the 1st round, and you'll see that Pac punched JMM after the 3rd knockdown, while JMM was already down, and the referee-Joe Cortez FAILED to take a point away.
    This is why the Judge intentionally scored it wrong, and said it was an "error".

    The Judge is not gonna tell the truth and say that he took a point away cause Pac fouled JMM after the 3rd knockdown, because if he said that he could be penalized by the Nevada Commission. So, he played "dumb" and said he " [mistakenly] scored it wrong", cause, in reality, he was doing JMM a rightfull favor.

    and now you're saying that being robbed has nothing to do with an intentioanl headbutt??????
    If a fighter intentionally fouls and opponent, he could get a point taken away. That intentional headbutt, could've cost Pac a point away, which would've been a factor in the outcome of the fight.

    Ali Funeka is not the same size as Pac.
    Guzman would've fought Pac in a much different style, than he did when he fought Funeka.

    You say, that : "PAC is actually fighting opposition at a level that embarrasses Floyd"??????

    1.) Floyd fought Shane Mosley, whom Pac DUCKED
    2.) Floyd fought Zab Judah, whom Pac had DUCKED
    3.) Floyd fought Marquez, after Pac DUCKED a 3rd Marquez fight with.

    Pac is only fighting Margarito, cause the fight is FIXED, just like Pac-Clottey was FIXED, and Delahoya-Pac was FIXED too.
     
  11. Aztecas

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    Paul ducked Pavlik many times. The only time Paul called out Pavlik was when Pavlik had a staph infection. After the infection healed, Paul moved down to 147lbs, so that he doesn't have to fight Pavlik at 160lbs.

    Cintron nailed Paul in the chin in the 3rd round, and then Paul's legs buckled.
    Afterwards, Paul made a half-circle around Cintron, then bent forward, and tackled Cintron to take Cintron out of his momentum.

    after the fight, Cintron wanted an immediate rematch. Paul declined.
     
  12. johnnydrama

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    You're silly kid.:rofl The judge made a mistake. The butt was unintentional and PAC beat JMM twice. He's got a draw on PAPER but JMM knows he lost along with 100% of the fans.

    It's a nice "story" and good for a lifetime movie but this is reality and not a soap. Lets stick to boxing.:good

    Again you fail to understand an unintetional or even an INTENTIONAL butt and what consitutes a "robbery" in boxing. I think I explianed the differences well enough for even you to comprehend.

    PAC didn't Duck shane...he simply beat the guy who beat Shane....Miguel Cotto.

    Zab wasn't a fighter whom PAC ducked b/c Zab wasn't in a position to land a fight.

    PAC faced and beat JMM so ducking wouldn't be close to a word that would be used in this situation.. These men have a history...ducking is when you don't have a history b/c you are preventing the fight from happening.

    As in the case with Floyd..Ducking Manny. :good

    And lets get the excuses straight...either PAC is doping.....taking advantage of "SHOT" fighters or draining them in order to win.

    If all of that is "true" in your world why oh why would anyone have to FIX a Manny PAC fight?:rofl

    You guys are funny as ****!:yep
     
  13. Aztecas

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    The Judge didn't make a mistake. He intentionally scored it wrong, cause he was compensating for referee-Joe Cortez' failure to take a point away for Pac's dirty fighting.
    the judge said he made a mistake, cause he was doing JMM a righfull favor, and at the same time "covering himself" as an honest judge.

    The butt was Intentional. Just look at the slow motion replay, and you'll see when
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    It was an Intentioanal headbutt. Just like Rodel Mayel later fouled Edgar Sosa with an intentioanl headbutt, and got away with it.

    Shane did everything possible to fight Pac, eve agreeing to come down to 140lbs, if Pac wanted too. Pac ducked him.
    Pac has fough guys that were already coming off loses.
    Pac fought Morales after Morales lost to Zaheer Raheem
    Pac fought Oscar Larios after Larios was coming off a KO loss to Israel Vazquez.
    Pac fought Morales after Morales was coming off a loss to Barrera.
    So, you're theory of Pac should not fighting Mosley cause he was coming off a loss to Cotto, does not add up.

    Zab was in the same division that Pac was, after Pac fought Cotto, but Pac NEVER fights slick-african-american boxers.

    Pac ducked a 3rd Marquez fight. JMM went to the phillipines and wanted a 3rd fight, and Pac avoided him. instaed Pac fight a c-level boxer-David Diaz for much less money, than fighting Marques for Millions More.

    Floyd is ready and willing to fight Pac. There are no moeny issues, no glove issues. its 99.9% done.
    All thats needed is that Pac take the EPO Steroid/Hormones tests before the fight, which Pac does not want to.

    Pac had had only 2 fights FIXED.
    1.) with his co-promoter (Oscar)
    2.) vs Clottey

    Now Pac will have a 3rd fight FIXED, vs Margarito.
    cause Margarito will be able to get licensed in California and Las Vegas, Nevada next year, and thereafter as part of Oscar's BRIBE. becasue Oscar is a corrupt TYRANT, that has control over Margarito's licensing in the US.
     
  14. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Yea Williams ducked Pavlik that it was Pavlik that postponed the fight 2 times in a row? And how did Williams knows Pavlik had staph infection before Pavlik post poned the first time?
     
  15. johnnydrama

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    AHAHA! You too funny kid! When you type, you sound like you actually believe yourself.:rofl The judge simply made a mistake...just like the headbutt was on accident. Bottom line this ain't a tickling contest and sometimes men bleed in the ring by accidental fouls. At the end of the day the better man won.....TWICE.:yep

    Shane was an OPTION for PAC....so was Cotto. Being that Cotto would be an easier fight to MAKE and he already BEAT Shane...it made sense to go after Cotto. "OPTIONS"

    Just like Floyd...he didn't DUCK MARG. He DUCKED PAC. He didn't face Marg b/c he had other OPTIONS. Baldo was a good option that he chose instead of Marg just like PAC chose Cotto over Shane.

    The problem is presently Floyd has NO other options that is on level with a PAC fight. So him going on Vacation was simply a DUCK! Big Difference.

    And PAC agreed to the "special tests" that Floyd wanted in order for him to do his job kid. You know that. They jsut couldn't reach a mutal agreeable term on the cut off date for the last test before the fight. Floyd really didn't want this fight which has made itself clear with ALL his comments and actions.

    He's really losing it:lol: I just hope he finds a way to over come his fears and finds his way back to boxing. IT's what he does! Yet he's coming up with reason NOT to do what he has done for his whole life. And he's still in his prime. What a waste.:-( A man with that kind of talent and ablility should be shook to fight.

    Floyd fought Zab After he lost to Baldo....which is common when there's a BIG fight on the horizon. PAC and EM had a rematch and EM had a terrible night with Raheem. But you see that Raheem couldn't ride that wave after beating EM b/c he just had one GREAT night when EM was having an OFF night.

    Same with Baldo.....he caught Zab on a very off night and took advantage of it.

    If the fight with DLH was "FIXED":rofl what's with all the excuses about being weight drained and SHOT!:huh Some poeple and their "logic' are so funny.

    And anyone who thinks Josh threw the fight with PAC has got to be a ******. He shot himself in the foot by not winning if in fact he "THREW" the fight.:lol: He cuold have had a rematch.....million dollar paydays in the future...his legacy would have went up 10 fold....But you expect for anyone with half a brain to think he "threw" it? AHAHAH!

    You silly as **** man. I love it when you post. I always get some comdey relief on a message board full of overly serious dudes.....but you're serious in a silly way which is great!

    Tell me more man! What else do you have that I can pick apart while laughin my ass off!?