If they had punching power...

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  1. The Kurgan

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    Maybe not feather-fisted, but I'd say power was one of the very few weaknesses in his game. Give him serious power and he would have beaten Duran, and that's saying something.
     
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    Broke my heart, TK, when Buchanan starched my friend, Chu Chu Malave -- on the heels of a highlight-reel KO of Percy Hayles -- at the Felt Forum in N.Y.
     
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    Stevie Johnston
    Jimmy Young
     
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    Now that I think about it: if Kenny had had great power, Buchanan-Watt would have never been such a great war, which would be a huge loss to Scottish boxing.
     
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    I hope you don't mean to imply that Hilario Zapata was a better fighter than Joey Archer, Drew.
     
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    If Calzaghe had not had so many hand problems he would of probably knocked out alot more of his opponents.
     
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    buchanan was under rated as a body puncher, ask mr watt what ken's body punching was like.
     
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    hopkins or toney with real one punch benn type power would be unbeatable...
     
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    Perhaps it was all that time in America. I remember a European boxer going to the USA and saying that the two things he learned in the USA were body-punching and infighting.
     
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    Has Fighting Harada been mentioned?
     
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    A lot of the fighters mentioned are already considered all time greats. To reiterate, what fighters become ATG if they possessed more punch power along with the skills they already have?

    What about Angel Manfredy?
     
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    :goodyou could be right
     
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    I just found this thread, so I am sorry I didn't get back to you sooner.

    1953 Ring Record Book
    Welterweights
    1. Joe Walcott
    2. Mysterious Billy Smith
    3. Jack Britton
    4. Ted Kid Lewis
    5. Mickey Walker
    6. Jimmy McLarnin

    1954 to 1956 Ring Record Books
    Welterweights
    1. Joe Walcott
    2. Mysterious Billy Smith
    3. Jack Britton
    4. Ted Kid Lewis
    5. Mickey Walker
    6. Ray Robinson

    1957 Ring Record Book
    Welterweights
    1. Joe Walcott
    2. Mysterious Billy Smith
    3. Jack Britton
    4. Ted Kid Lewis
    5. Ray Robinson
    6. Harry Lewis
    7. Willie Lewis
    8. Henry Armstrong
    9. Barney Ross
    10. Jimmy McLarnin
    Note: Mickey Walker is now rated #4 Middleweight

    1957 Ring Record Book
    Middleweights
    1. Stanley Ketchel
    2. Tommy Ryan
    3. Harry Greb
    4. Mickey Walker
    5. Frank Klaus
    6. Billy Papke
    7. Les Darcy
    8. Mike Gibbons
    9. Jeff Smith
    10. Eddie McGoorty

    1958-End Ring Record Book
    Welterweights
    1. Joe Walcott
    2. Mysterious Billy Smith
    3. Jack Britton
    4. Ted Kid Lewis
    5. Dixie Kid
    6. Harry Lewis
    7. Willie Lewis
    8. Henry Armstrong
    9. Barney Ross
    10. Jimmy McLarnin

    1958-End Ring Record Book
    Middleweights
    1. Stanley Ketchel
    2. Tommy Ryan
    3. Harry Greb
    4. Mickey Walker
    5. Ray Robinson
    6. Frank Klaus
    7. Billy Papke
    8. Les Darcy
    9. Mike Gibbons
    10. Jeff Smith
     
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    Bobby Czyz might argue about this, rc
     
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