Williams/Martinez II..who wins?

Too many PW nuthuggers on this site? I'd say they're not enough look at the results of the poll.:deal If there are so many PW nuthuggers like you claim he would be wining this poll going away.:deal If anything Williams is hated here more than he's liked, he has very few fans here.

 

Still too many.

 

I agree. We all saw what he did to Quintana in that rematch.:yep He put a demolition job on his ass in less than one round.

 

atsch

 

Too many baby-dick Manny fans:deal

 

I'm way more of a Floyd fan. Take a look at my comments on Pacquiao. atsch

 

Now it turns into I don't like PW LOL. That's the best you got for a response? No need to debate because you on some Low level emotional ****. I like what fighters do and have no care for who they are outside the ring or as a person. They all actors to IMO. If you can find something that implies I don't like PW on a personal level then please show me or come up with a better response. It's not like I said PW will lose because he's a *****

PW fought like he did against Cintron because he is not the same man. The old (confident in his chin) PW would have OVERWHELMED Cintron like i thought he would prior to that fight. Sadly what I saw was a shell of the old PW which had him looking dumbfounded and confused. Sure Cintron did a swan dive but that doesn't excuse the fact that PW never faught like that ever. He only employing a gameplan now because he lacks confidence in his chin. Every other fight it was the a,b,a,b,a,b video game style employed which is not really a gameplan but a play on physical attributes, such as long arms, decent hand speed, chin and stanima. Sadly that was the style that made him a very tough fighter. The martinez fight is the first fight that PW was ever visually hurt. Now he doesn't have the reckless abandon in him, and he wants to box now. Sorry but, without the video game style, he is average.


And no he didn't win the first Martinez fight. If any fight was a draw in the history of boxing, it was that one. He was given that win just like he was given the win against the swan diving cintron.

Keep scratching that head of yours. I told you the reason why he fought Cintron like that and all you can say is he was employing a gameplan. I already knew that and the reason behind him finally trying to use a gameplan. See I was past you before you even started. No confidence in that chin. He knows he can be dropped now:deal

And still you think PW will overwhelm Martinez? Like I said, you have to act like the cintron fight didn't happen to believe that BS. I can't wait to hear your excuse after this one.

 

He wasn't rocked and really hurt against Quintana. He took alot of those ugly looping shots but was never really hurt. He was hit with some shots from Martinez that immediately made him drop. I don't see any excuse valid for why he looked so dumbfounded and confused and average against cintron besides him not being the same reckless PW that made him dangerous in the first place. That first fight with Martinez really took something out of him.

 

The Martinez fight was demanding and williams was rocked a couple of times (the classic snot shot). But I don't think it took something out of him.

 

Martinez took the first 4. Pavlik came on for the next 4 and then one of the most abrupt changes in momentum happened in the 9th that carried on the rest of the way.

Something else besides the bleeding seemed to be going on there. I don't know what, but I know it was very sudden change that made it look like they didn't belong in the ring together in the first place. Don't know if it was KPs weight issues or what. I just know kelly had a strong momentum going that just got overtaken by a huge wave from Martinez.

 

You wish the Martinez fight took something out of him.:deal

So many "Americans" pulling against the US fighter.

I wonder how many Argentines want to see Williams beat Sergio??

:think

 

Then why was he trying to box all of a sudden, instead of using his trademark a,b,a,b,a,b, style in his last fight against cintron. Like I said, PW would have blown cintron out the water if his mind was straight. I don't know any reason more likely for him looking like he did against cintron besides worrying about being hit, which he seemed to not have that worry before.

 

Why do you guys feel that I think like you all. Want has nothing to do with anything and neither does Wish. If you can find somewhere that I wish or want PW to lose then please show me or come with something not from a primitive standpoint.

I just stating what I feel will happen from what I've seen visually. I don't care about nationalities or race or any of that BS anyways. That's just some Low Level stuff with no inteligent base to it.

It's a prediction and that's it. I come with reasons why also. So please come with reasons for your arguement instead of saying something primitive as in WISH OR WANT.

 

Paul isn't the one that dove out of the ring.

 

Maravilla Martinez by decision. Martinez will be in better shape this time and is improving. Williams still a force, but he looks to be getting exposed as each fight goes on. He still won't be easy to beat, but Martinez is just a suped up version of Quintana, Williams' kryptonite.