Paul Williams: 'I've never seen Pacquiao ducking anybody'

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by johnnydrama, Sep 16, 2010.


  1. AlisJab

    AlisJab I crush homers Full Member

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    Saensak Muangsurin had the stones to fight Thomas Hearns and Saensak Muangsurin was about the exact same size as Manny Pacquiao. So you are gonna tell me that Saensak Muangsurin had bigger grapefruits than Pacquiao? David Haye gave up much more height to Valuev, should David Haye have used a ladder? What a lame excuse.
     
  2. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    It'd be a good fight. I would like to see it.
     
  3. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Didn't Saensak get KTFO in 3 rounds vs Hearns?
    If I remember correctly, Saensak was punching air while Hearns fist was half way inside his skull.
     
  4. AlisJab

    AlisJab I crush homers Full Member

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    Yep, and he still had the stones. Pacquiao fans swoon over his skills, speed, and footwork, well how is it that David Haye can beat the crap out of a 7 footer but Pacquiao fans are scared of him fighting a wide punching 6'1" fighter? I think Pacquiao could beat Williams's ass.
     
  5. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hes riding pac nuts talking bout Pac comes to fight but gues what p willy Pac will not come to fight you, your worthless to him
     
  6. johnnydrama

    johnnydrama Guest

    HW's are in a completely seperate category. They are BIG men with less skills who rely on mostly their physical attributes...for those who have good skills and who are BIG...they have the advantage but the HW division is lacking in skills and talent where in the lower weight classes there's talent and skills in abundance simply b/c they need them a lot more. They can't rely on a great equalizer that most BIG men have in their hands.
     
  7. Aztecas

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  8. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cintron literally jumped out of the ring and quit in the fight, you ****in ******.
     
  9. johnnydrama

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    AHAHA! Man you are creative...:yep The only way I'll visit your world and entertain the thought that the judge KNOWINGLY ****ed up his reputation as a way to "even things" out is if you showed me proof you were that judge.

    Which might be believeable considering had that been you.....Judging and screwing up on the job...You probably would be here posting.:rofl

    You're thought process is one big mess if you really believe what you typed. You gotta be a even funnier in real life.:yep

    There was nothing intentional about the butt kid. **** happens..it's a rough sport. These are big boys...they work through pain. In this game you take a few lumps. Part of the job description.

    Pac didnt duck Shane....PAC fought Cotto. Who beat Shane. Shane got lucky it wasn't him anyway. he probably would have got paid more by fighting Floyd anyway.

    Floyd has fought guys coming off a loss too...Zab was coming off a loss to Baldo...Actually...I think every fighter is guilty of that.

    "MY THEORY" is PAC fights based on a variety of different criteria....but I can gurantee that none of them are based on fighters coming off a loss. Cotto got the fight simply b/c it made sense financially and it was easier to make having Miguel as a top rank fighter.

    PAC agreed to random blood tests...they just couldn't agree on the cutoff for the last test.

    Zab never fought an Asian dynamo....neither has Floyd. I don't see anyone claiming Floyd is avoiding "ASIAN" fighters...well....We are NOW...but that's b/c Floyd is DUCKING an asian fighter.:yep

    PAC didn't duck JMM in a rubber match b/c he already beat him twice...one was a gift DRAW that saw JMM DUCK the immediate rematch. And I don't blame him. he took a beating in the first fight and got away with a lucky technicality. Instead he ducked the rematch and faced Chris John in indoneasia.:-( He lost his title.

    PAC agreed tot he tests and Floyd went on Vacation. They battled over the cutoff date but that wasy b/c PAC wasn't gonna let Floyd dictate the entire negotiation process. We see what happens when they call Floyd's Bluff......Floyd loses the "URGE" to fight.

    When anyone is at their wits end and have no solid ground to stand on they come up with CONSPIRACY THEORIES! Like PAC winning his fight by being FIXED!:rofl That's when you know someone is a special fighter!

    I've heard of making excuses for why a fighter loses....But with Manny there are haters making excuses for why he WINS!

    Josh wouldn't throw millions of dollars out the window by throwing out his opportunity to build a legacy and generate millions by WINNING against Manny. You're logic is something else man....

    Buster was on cloud nine for a while until he signed on to fight Evander...then he was exposed. Had he continued winning his money and leagacy would have continued to grow...as would Josh...if he didn't "THROW THE FIGHT":rofl

    Maybe if you let go of some of that crack I might be inclinded to "understand" your stance on this. But being of sound mind and sober.....Reality won't allow me to think like you man. :lol:
     
  10. Xanthro

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    While the commentator is saying Williams is hurt, he's not. He was off balance and took a step, he's not really wobbled or hurt.
     
  11. Aztecas

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  13. Aztecas

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  14. Aztecas

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    Floyd Ducked Margarito, just like Pac ducked Mosley. It was more than just “options”, it was FEAR. Margarito had challenged Floyd for over a year, and Floyd ducked him for over a year, just like Mosley challenged Pac for almost a year, and Pac ducked Mosley for almost a year.

    Pac had had only 2 fights FIXED.
    1.) with his co-promoter (Oscar)
    2.) vs Clottey


    Pac’s fight with Oscar, was FIXED.
    The weight-drain and “shot” excuses were made to fool the public, and you happen to be one of the many that was fooled by Oscar’s fake excuse, for the “cover-up” FIX.

    Clottey would not have gotten a rematch. There was no rematch clause in the contract.
    Clottey has no soild fan base anywhere in the US, and was not gonna prosper had he beaten Pac, cause everyone would simply say that Pac had an “off-night”, or that Clottey was to big.
    Either way, It would NOT have elevated Clotteys’ status much, just like Buster Douglas did NOT go far, after beating an undefeated Mike Tyson in Japan, in the BIGGEST UPSET IN BOXING HISTORY.

    Clottey would still be the same unknown fighter he is today, had he beaten Pac.
    He “threw” the fight, and got paid millions, to do so, which is more money than he will ever make.
    Had Clottey not agree to Oscar’s BRIBE, Clottey would’ve never fought Pac, and miss out on Millions of $$$$ in BRIBE.
     
  15. Aztecas

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    Now Pac will have a 3rd fight FIXED, vs Margarito.
    cause Margarito will get paid, extra, under the table, and be able to get licensed in California and Las Vegas, Nevada next year, and thereafter, as part of Oscar's BRIBE,, because Oscar is a corrupt TYRANT, that has totalitarian control over Margarito's licensing in the US.

    After all, it was Oscar that had the Texas commission deny Margarito’s licensing earlier this year for the Pac-Clottey undercard, and now Oscar had the Texas commission grant Margarito a license, 8 months later, to get this FIXED FIGHT going on Nov. 13, 2010.