How would Marciano fair in todays heavyweight scene?

There is first hand testimony evidence that Marciano was doing 16 miles plus roadwork in the mountains in the run up to some of his title fights.

Is it possible?

Absolutely.

Is there a caveat to these testimones?

The caveat is that a journalist will often see what a fighter does on a given day and assume that he does that every day. The Pollack biography reconstructs Jim Jeffries training regime for the Munroe fight from multiple sources, and it is incredible, but there are no two days the same. He focuses on one thing on monday, and something completely different on tuesday.

 

Very good post.

Rocky could not make 175. He was ripped at 185. He is also not going to be better too much heavier. He trained to that weight for a reason. It was the weight that he maximized his skill set. A slower Marciano with less stamina would not do better. He was a sloped shouldered, short armed slugger with thick legs. To compare his body frame with Tyson is simply innacurate. Lower - mid 190's tops ..

Comparisons to Adamak are ridiculous ... one guy is a boxer and the other a slugger.

 

Clearly the idea of Marciano not being a muscle bound, stocky Italian giant would ruin all of your homosexual fantasies about him. I could care less about your numbers because you don't understand the concept. If you're honestly trying to debate with me as to whether a man who could train down to 178 could make 175, that speaks volumes about your ignorance.

 

Couldn't fight any lower than what he did. He trained to be as light as could when he fought, he walked around at 205-210 between fights.

 

So it's not possible for him dehydrate 5% of his body weight?

 

surely he could drain ten pounds off to make light heavy. didnt kelly pavlik weigh in at like 173 or something ridiculous on the night of some of his middleweight fights? surely rocky could, and he woiuld make serious noise in the light heavy's, cruisers, and heavys with only the klitshko boys giving him trouble. btw i think weight is severely overrated nowadays. arreola would be far better at 215, which would be natural for him, haye would be faster and have more stamina at 205 -210 ish. the only heavyweight fighters who seem to come in at optimum fighting weight are the klitshkos. just because someone is out of shape and carrying 30 pounds of fat why would they beat a machine who is 185. marciano was damn strong at the weight and hit like a train. i swear he has as many clean ko's as tkos on his record, which is rare. I dont beleive any heavyweight today could take his punches

 

It's obvious reading this thread how few people have ever engaged in actually boxing or any sport where making weight is an issue. I know Suzie Q is a wrestler so I'm really surprised he said Marciano couldn't make the weight.

It's not losing ten pounds of walking around weight, it's ten pounds of water which is no problem. Wear a couple sweatshirts, and sit in a sauna or work out for an hour and there's the weight. Hell, I wrestle in college and lose ten pounds during a hard practice (I'm considerably larger than Marciano though )

 

Yea right a fat Toney contends in the HW but Rocky couldnt,you have to be kidding.

 

Rocky fought at the weight that suited him best. 10-15lbs of extra muscle wouldn't aid him and would probably detract from his stamina and slow him down...and he wasn't a speedster to begin with. As for him competing in today's HW era I say yes he could. This isn't the 70's or the early 90's after all. There are no Ali's or Holmes' or Foreman's or Tysons', Lewis' or Holyfields to contend with. Aside from the Klit brothers the division isn't all that stellar. A prime Marciano would certainly take his share of HW scalps.

 

I box and the point you guys seem to be missing is that Marciano came in at the bare minimum. It would be asking a lot for him to lose 10lbs when he already lost everything he can. You're basically saying that Marciano could shred down to the lighest he can, then making him lose another 10 lbs. Marciano was not a small guy, despite being 5'11 and weighing in at 185.

 

Chef says Wlad gains weight in camps...

 

:happy

 

His only chance would have been against the HWs who does not belong at HW (just like himself and the elite HW of his day like Charles , Walcott and Moore , and even Louis if the CW limit is 200 , although Louis could have made 190) , and the big bums.

I know people here will instantly remind Carl Thompson , but Marciano was downed by lighter punchers than David Haye and Haye stopped people whom were never endangered by anyone of Marciano's size : Ruiz , Barrett , Fragomeni.

So Haye is my favorite against Marciano , of course Marciano would have had a chance against Haye , but more probably Haye stops him because he just hits harder than Moore and Walcott.

But the most here are idiots and thus , fail to understand these facts.

 

In our era he would have been a LHW.
In fact he could have been a LHW in his own era , look at Moore whom was bigger than him , he actually was a LHW . This is my proof Marciano was a LHW fighting at HW even in his own era .

 

Another obvious thing I forgot to mention is that Haye will always be less reachable than Moore and Charles since he has both range and fire power advantages over both . Haye could even actually fight a tall man's fight against Marciano if he chose to , but I doubt if it would have been necessary for him. Haye never enjoyed range advantage like he would have had over Marciano and Marciano never faced a quality opponent near Haye's size (unless you insist to count the corpse of Joe Louis as such) but Haye is nowhere as done right now.