John Murray V Victor Ortiz a possibilty for Khan/Maidan undercard

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  1. zico2010

    zico2010 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Schaefer discussing it with Mick Hennessy according to article on the homepage.
     
  2. bigboxingfan

    bigboxingfan Hypejob Full Member

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    In the words of David Haye, "it will be a gang ****" :lol:

    No way Murray will take that fight
     
  3. Bad Dog

    Bad Dog Boxing Addict banned

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    Will never happen. He's turned down many big fights such as this. Ortiz would kill him. It would be a gang ****.
     
  4. zico2010

    zico2010 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I reckon he would. The money will be significantly better than any other fight he can get. Exposure to the casual fan. If he loses, well it's a big paycheck and no disgrace given that Ortiz is world class. If he wins - and Ortiz has already been proved beatable and possibly lacking in heart - then a world title shot and huge money fight with Khan will be on the table. He'd be mad not to take this fight if it was offered to him.
     
  5. ellaineo

    ellaineo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even if this fight comes off, Mick will probably manage to get it in Gambia.
     
  6. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Can't see this happening tbh. If it did, although Ortiz is the favourite. I think it'll be really competitive. Ortiz still has those 'heart' issues, say what you want about Murray but he's got real determination and would put Ortiz in uncomfortable situations.

    They had Ortiz fighting Vivian Harris FFS. They're not really confident in him right now and won't risk any fight they're not absolutely sure he wins.
     
  7. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:

    I have to say if this comes off and Kirkland on the card, I am thinking a trip to Vegas is just what Santa ordered...(Pending better half approval of course)

    I'll give Murrays people credit for taking this fight. Ortiz will crush him.
     
  8. jj01709

    jj01709 The Truth Full Member

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    murray would outclass ortiz
     
  9. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Ortiz would be the big favourite and i'm not a fan of Murray, but Victor is still mentally unstable IMO. Trust me GBP have realised this guy although he has physical gifts is gonna be a late developer. If you look at the Harris fight he still got anxious and walked into a couple of shots. Murray doesn't have the power, the defence nor the athleticism, but he has certain intangibles that means it's enough of a risk for Golden girl not to make a fight like this, which doesn't really do much for Ortiz in the grander scheme of things.
     
  10. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::nut

    If Murray won, it wouldn't be down to him 'outclassing' Ortiz.
     
  11. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    were all saying he wont but hes gotta bite the bullet some time , i mean its not even like their milking his local fanbase with poor matchups , there doing nothing with him and havent been since about his 9-10th fight he hasent fought that much better competition in apart from 3 brit title fights

    they may just give it a go if he loses theyve cashed in on an investment that they managed poorly if he wins theyve got some money ahead of them

    cant keep fighting shite opposition and not that regulary
     
  12. tdw

    tdw Active Member Full Member

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    Imagine having the next Mag 7 line plus this fight and the Khan fight in one night
     
  13. alba

    alba Guess who? Full Member

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    wont happen
     
  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Wouldn't be an awful fight for John Murray.

    Although on paper he appears completely outclassed...as far as intangibles which are extremely important in boxing he very probably has a real edge.
     
  15. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At least it would put Murray on the map and he would fight for every minute of every round he has massive determination but i dont particularly rate Murray, though i would still like to see him step up and this would be a great fight to watch.