Better head-movement, Qawi or Mike Tyson.............

they had pretty different styles. qawi wasn't an explosive counterpuncher that tyson was and rarely squared himself up.

i would say qawi but tyson was still a virtuoso as far as the HW division goes

 

agree, though Tyson probably had the better reflexes relative to weightclass.

 

Head movement isnt for looks. Tyson made very subtle moves, whether with his head or upper body, as he came forward and was rarely hit cleanly.

 

As usual solid post.

I was about to say that head movement isn't necessarily an aesthetic thing, Its actually a defensive maneuver that has more emphasis on its overall effectiveness.

Qawi was more Frazier than Tyson.

But overall given Tyson's reflexes and speed and countering ability I'd give Mike the edge. As for which one looked prettier its a different story; you could give Qawi the edge there but its purely subjective.

 

Qawi had better defense posture than Tyson ever had. Tyson's defense was his offense. Both were good with head movement, but Tyson's skills went to hell rather quickly. Qawi was able to maintain his slippery head movement much longer over the course of a career.

Qawi gets my vote...

MR.BILL

 

I feel enlightened already.

What nuggets of wisdom will emerge next i wonder.

ah, that's not aimed at you bill.

 

this is pretty off topic, sorry....but this thread has got me thinking about this youtube i seen a while ago...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b0yHvw-vW0[/ame]

 

Not really true in the early stages of his career Bill. Tyson was always all offense, but he used his ability to slip and counter very effectively. Rarely did you see Tyson hit cleanly, until later on in his career.

 

It must be great being you.

 

Tyson's head movement, though effective enough, seemed to follow a set trajectory of movement over and over most of the time whereas that of Qawi seemed like a more natural reaction to circumstance. Mike was quicker and more athletic, but I reckon that Qawi had slightly subtler head movement and an edge in anticipation.

 

Point was, Tyson did wonders with his head for about "3" years (1986-1989) before the movement vanished.... I just feel Qawi had better defense overall during the course of his career...

MR.BILL

 

Well said. :good

 

Yes Tyson around 90 pretty much abandoned trying to be elusive, whereas in the beginning he would make his opponent miss and then counter, he became full steam ahead and preferred to just power through his opponents regardless what was coming back at him. His defense went downhill very quickly once he got away from it.

I would say the complete opposite of this is true.