Angelo Dundee: Best I've trained

actually i would say you can give ali the nudge over leonard..but its close....and some of what ali is considered great can be considered flashy **** and publicity ****.....

 

Best post on the thread, whats Angelo like in person JG?

As for 'if Leonard was 200lbs he'd whip Ali', well perhaps but if he was 200lbs he'd be slower and have less stamina

 

yea..i point i made to bruce..and a point he then aggreed with .

 

Yeah, you've presented yourself as someone with less than stellar intellect and people skills. Savour that victory.

If you can't see the vast difference in Dundee's and Burt's appreciation of Ali... Well, lets' just say too much time has been vasted on you already.

 

Instead of the expected peals of laughter at Doug Fischer's blunder as pointed out here, it is greatly disappointing to me to find that seven pages have been spent arguing the merits of an argument whose originator hasn't even posted ITT since prior to my above post. :-(

 

Get writing your book J :good

 

Nothin' but fond memories of Angelo, PP. Despite working with the best fighters on the planet, he always found time to work with the gym team. Knew every kid's name 'n history 'n, watching 'em spar, patiently demonstrated the subtlest nuances they needed to make.

Knowing you had him in your corner, you felt you could knock down buildings.

 

Do you how he got into the trade? He didn't box himself, did he?

 

I first met Angelo in the early '50s at Stillman's Gym in New York. He was assisting Lou Duva, 'n very tight with Whitey Bimstein, Freddie Brown, Ray Arcel, Al Silvani 'n Nick Florio, to name a few.

 

He must have been pretty young when he became Basilio's trainer, right? Was he a prodigy, well connected or both?

 

Angelo was very highly thought of, B, 'n that wasn't easy with all the legendary trainers at Stillman's.

 

...............So did Fernandez break Fullmer's arm in a clinch then, or with a punch? :think

 

Strongest: Ali -- Look what Muhammad did to Liston when he was still growing! He manhandled guys who were known for their strength. Muhammad was a lot stronger than people thought. That’s how he was able to slow Frazier down, by tying him up inside. It’s how he wore Foreman down in Zaire. By the time his body fully matured in the late 1960s, there weren’t a lot of guys who could outmuscle Ali.

I've heard this also from Larry Holmes. Ali didn't look like a heavily muscled Frank Bruno type, but Larry said that until you got into the ring with Muhammad you could be deceived. According to Holmes (and some of this is in his book "Against the Odds") Ali was exceptionally strong, especially on the inside.

 

Why, what did he say about it?