Could yerr beat Fat Boy Willie Meehan - Over 4 Roundz???

why are you talking like such an idiot?

 

stop talking like a pirate and making ****ing ******ed posts and maybe I'll listen to your bull****

 

A morbidly obese guy who was famous for never training beat a prime Jack Dempsey twice???

And Burt thinks Dempsey puts Louis out in 2 rounds. And Janitor thinks Dempsey vs Tyson is 50/50

 

Jack Dempseys credability just took a hit...

 

He wasn't really that mor bidly obese ******...look at his pics...if chris arreola came into the ring in his shape everyone would cum in their pants about how good he looks...and he actually just had a tough style where he would slap and run...hard to catch him in 4 rounds...having said that...I'm sure he could kick ass on all the esb posters on here.

 

He has two wins on dempsey..one draw and one loss...he did really well in 4 roun fights...less well in longer fight..but fought lots of good guys..fred fulton, harry greb and others....

 

Modern day keyboard revisionist/warriors have deemed Jack Dempsey to be subpar...I guess that you could say next that Mike Weaver was **** because early in his career Duane Bobick knocked him out. Who gives a **** if Dempsey lost a couple of 4 rounders to Meehan.
What he did to Jess Willard on July 4, 1919 and after that has stood the test of time and reverberated through time in the annals of boxing.

 

Old Foreman wearing a cape would kill him.

 

Meehan was stopped six times in 140 bouts, and not ever halted in a match scheduled for four rounds. He drew with a peak Miske immediately prior to that final recorded win over Dempsey, then took Fulton the four round route twice before easily dominating Langford over that distance. Later in 1919, he took Miske and a peak Greb ten rounds each. Immediately after Langford, he also beat veteran Jeff Clark over four rounds. Willie took a 25 year old Harry Wills the four round route in 1914, when he himself was just 20 years of age. He got the better of Dillon over six rounds one month after Meehan's fifth match with Dempsey. In 1920, he took Brennan the six round limit, Weinert 12 rounds, and closely contested Martin Burke over the championship distance. In 1922 and again in 1923, he made Floyd Johnson go all four rounds. Gunboat Smith was also forced to settle for a four round decision. Willie was a 23 year old veteran of 92 fights when he first squared off with the 21 year old Dempsey.

Willie Meehan was unable to continue against Walter Coffey in 1912, when they fell through the ropes in a clinch and Meehan hit his head. In the first ten years and 123 recorded fights of Willie's career, nobody knocked him out with punching. Dempsey came as close as anybody to doing the trick, dropping Meehan nearly for the count in round two of their final match, the only knockdown of their series, yet it became Willie's second recorded win over Jack. Their third match was ruled as a draw by the referee, but all other witnesses stated that Jack was robbed of the win. (Under the ten point must system, it would be quite a challenge to come out on top after four rounds while conceding the only knockdown.) It cannot be emphasized enough that they squared off three times in Meehan's native San Francisco, and twice in Emeryville, just across San Francisco Bay, and that Dempsey actually extracted two draws and a win out of this hometown cooking.

Finally, Tommy Gibbons and Miske were able to off a fading Meehan in one. Tommy trapped him in a 12 rounder on neutral turf in Cleveland where Willie couldn't play for a short duration. Still he couldn't land Meehan for the full count, and the referee had to call it off after three knockdowns. Billy trapped him in a ten rounder at Oklahoma City. Later in 1922, Fulton finally took him out, but needed five rounds to do it.

According to what I can gather, Willie could take tremendous body punishment, may have been endowed with a very low resting heart rate, could recover well when hurt until a lack of conditioning and dedication started catching up to him in his late 20s, was gifted with tremendous natural speed, quickness and reflexes, and protected himself well by maintaining a high guard and level of alertness. He quit between round 11 and 12 of his scheduled 15 rounder with Lee Anderson in March 1922. He was stopped in the seventh of his final career match, after a layoff of over two and a half years. An argument might be made that the then red hot Tommy Gibbons and Miske caught him cold when they stopped him, as he shifted gears towards going a longer route. Really, a case can be made that the Fulton-Meehan III TKO5 in Fort Worth on September 4, 1922 was the only truly substantive stoppage loss of Meehan's career. (My girlfriend lives in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Maybe some day, I'll ask her to check out what the local newspaper microfilm and historical archives have to say about Fulton-Meehan III.)

There is absolutely no fighter in history who I would bet on being able to take a peak Meehan out within a scheduled maximum distance of four rounds, especially not with modern foam filled ten ounce gloves, considering that Willie typically competed with the five ounce variety, upholstered with horse hair.