Warren promises multiple world title fights December 11th

you need to get the facts straight.

Groves was already committed to another date.

I have never heard Groves calling out DeGale, but I've heard it the other way round.

 

Groves has called out degale loads of times HMS...have you been out at sea for the last few years?


I think it's bellew vs clev - frankies gymmate and also trained by arnie. The people frankies gonna have info on are gymmates

 

The thing with Bellew vs Clev...Clev said after Bellew's last fight that there is no way they're going to fight (obviously it will happen if both keep winning though) and why would he give up a potential 'world' title fight to face off against a domestic rival at this stage?

 

I like Groves but, man, that was excrutiating.

To be fair, though, that isn't evidence to back up your point at all? He doesn't call out DeGale at all. He bad mouths him but he calls out Dilks and Smith.

 

Bellew would be smashed to pieces by Cleverley, easily.

 

There is no domestic fight that's going to be a big deal which doesn't involve David Haye or Ricky Hatton - neither of whom are available - so if Frank really does have a trump card for December I wouldn't think it's an all domestic fight. Groves-DeGale, Cleverly-Bellew or Macklin-Barker just don't resonate beyond hardcore fans.

A washed up megastar like Roy Jones, Erik Morales or Evander Holyfield is a possibility: Jones-Clev, Holy-Derek or Brook-Morales would sell.

 

He doesn't need Macklin Barker/ Groves Degale to capture the public at this stage. The 'World Title' fight involving Clev would do that. This is the platform that will get the likes of Groves, Maclin, Barker known to the general public. He will have some familiar names in there so that the public will pay a bit of interest.

Frank has done this a couple times before you know!!!

 

Agreed. I think Frank see's potential in them both. He won't match them at this stage IMO. I doubt he ever would have matched them so soon.

 

Not disagreeing Will that Clev-Braehmer would be a decent draw but that would not be unexpected...seemed like people were speculating Frank has an ace up his sleeve and what it might be. Obviously the speculation might be misplaced.

 

I've never seen the video.