Lennox Lewis would've whoop Ali like he stole something

I'm back.In response to statement #2 of your post,no ****ing ****!You're a walking contradiction.Many posts ago,I wrote that Lewis would have had all kinds of problems with Ali's jab because Ali's was better than Mercer's,and Lewis had all kinds of problems with Mercer's jab.You vehemently disagreed.You then wrote that Mercer and Ali had 2 different styles(true),and that prime Lewis would walk prime Ali down(asinine)and used the Botha fight as an example.That's how you and I got into it in the first place.And now you say that if a fighter has a good jab,another fighter is gonna have problems with it.No ****.How enlightening.Ali's is only one of the greatest heavyweight jabs ever.Here's another example of your stupidity.

 

1. you said " no one in history whoops ali.ever."" i said he was whooped in the third frazier fight.you never mentioned "prime".saying ali wasn't prime after three years out of the ring is stupid.he was 28 years old.he WAS prime back then.

2. same with lewis.

3. you're all over the place here.lewis wouldn't be able to catch ali?:roflatschatschatsch.lewis only closed the distance when he had a man hurt because
he was an outside fighter.that's what his game was.he hurt these guys from the outside.what makes you think he couldn't hurt ali from the outside?
why would you use mercer as an example? mercer is a come forward pressure fighter, and ali likes to move around on the back foot.they are chalk and cheese when it comes to fighting styles.

4. are clutching at straws!!

5. lewis would be able to hurt ali.more than anyone else was able to do as well.i see lewis keeping ali on the outside, and busting him up with the jab and right hand.you also have to acknowledge that ali had poor balance.with the style that lewis had, ali would be made to look even more off balance than he usually is.it's a bad style for ali.not the other way round.

 

well there's some points we're likely always to disagree on. if you are of the mind that ali from 1971 was prime, well that's our biggest difference.

lewis had decent stamina, good chin but his mobility was only effective (or utilized) in short bursts. he was EXTREMELY flat footed for the majority of his career. as are all heavyweights, except ali. that's why he beat them so bad. lewis' jab was great true, but ali would be nowhere near it and lewis lacked the mobility of ernie terrell, who himself could only bullrush in. in terms of styles, i just see lewis being made to look lumbering and ineffective until the rare occasions he could work ali into a corner.

over 15, lewis takes 5 rounds

over 12, lewis takes 4 at the most

 

you're doing it again, jorodz.

mccall: fair enough.

rahman: lewis didn't train properly, got to africa a week before the fight so hadn't acclimatized to the altitde, etc etc.with lewis focusing in the second fight, he crushed him.

are you talking about the mercer fight as the third? if so, GTFOH.lewis won the fight.it was close, but lewis won.

 

ernie terrell?? why bring him into it?

is it because you like to use certain things to suit you're argument?

lets use henry cooper.ali was in his prime then. ( i'm sure you'll come back and say ali wasn't in his prime then either )

cooper had the most basic of skills, but was able to land many punches on ali.in fact, he was beating ali.he also dropped him with a big left hook in the fourth. when ali got to his corner, dundee used illegal smelling salts.who knows what would of happened if dundee hadn't of done this. cooper might of knocked him out in the next round. ali was badly hurt, it wouldn't of taken much to stop him.

we can all take certain things to suit our arguments.

as for the rest.you say ali. i say lewis.

we'll just leave it at that.:good

 

serious ammunition?

no.

 

another meaningless post. keep them coming ******.

 

i was talking about the third ali - frazier fight, not the first you ****ing ******.

it would be nice if you could read just one of my posts properly.but you can't. that's why i treat you like a pet mr. idiot.

 

contradiction?? where??

i said to you many posts ago that just because mercer troubled lewis with the jab, it doesn't necessarily mean ali would.

which is true you ****ing ******!!!!

how is that and my second statement a contradiction?

if you read my post properly, you'll notice i said " SOME problems"

every time you try, you fail!!

MISERABLY!!

keep them coming cream cake.

 

I think the biggest determining factor of boxing is Spirit which guides all other attributes. Lewis was real good, but Ali was great. Boxers fought with more spirit back then and Ali would of kicked Lewis butt.

 

i see him beating the **** out of frazier. just being honest.

 

Meaningless posts?Why,because I disagree with your rampant stupidity?You lead ESB in those "meaningless posts" you mindless moronKeep coming,cocksucker

 

I'm a ****ing ******?ALI WON THE THRILLA IN MANILA YOU STUPID ****ING COCKSUCKER.Nobody,but nobody on ESB is more ******ed than you.

 

Ass,You wrote that if a fighter has a good jab,another fighter will have problems with it.YOU wrote that.You.Ali had a better jab than Mercer.You don't think Lewis would have had problems with Ali's jab after you wrote that a fighter would have problems with a good jab?And you can't even see the contradiction in your statements?You are so ****ing stupid,you can't even recognize your own rampant stupidityA few posts ago,you asked for more examples of your stupidity.Well here's yet another one.Just keep posting because every one of your posts is ****ing stupidJust keep posting,ass.

 

"whooped in the 3rd Frazier fight".
Your quote.Yours.That's the 2nd time you wrote that.ALI WON THAT FIGHT YOU INSANELY STUPID COCKSUCKER.HAHAHAHA.quote=assasin;7865612]1. you said " no one in history whoops ali.ever."" i said he was whooped in the third frazier fight.you never mentioned "prime".saying ali wasn't prime after three years out of the ring is stupid.he was 28 years old.he WAS prime back then.

2. same with lewis.

3. you're all over the place here.lewis wouldn't be able to catch ali?:roflatschatschatsch.lewis only closed the distance when he had a man hurt because
he was an outside fighter.that's what his game was.he hurt these guys from the outside.what makes you think he couldn't hurt ali from the outside?
why would you use mercer as an example? mercer is a come forward pressure fighter, and ali likes to move around on the back foot.they are chalk and cheese when it comes to fighting styles.

4. are clutching at straws!!

5. lewis would be able to hurt ali.more than anyone else was able to do as well.i see lewis keeping ali on the outside, and busting him up with the jab and right hand.you also have to acknowledge that ali had poor balance.with the style that lewis had, ali would be made to look even more off balance than he usually is.it's a bad style for ali.not the other way round.[/quote]
You can't even count,you stupid ****.Ali was born in January,1942 and fought Frazier in March ,1971.Ali was 29 when he fought Frazier the first time,not that the one year difference itself would have made a difference,but it proves that your math skills suck as much as your writing down your "facts".And if you can't see that a 3 year layoff during a fighter's prime isn't going to affect him negatively,then it is beyond the shadow of a doubt that you are truly the ESB champ of stupidity.Congratulations for your title as you've certainly earned it