Harder puncher P4P.......Trinidad at 147 or McClellan at 160?

Against Jackson who I was referring to and as WAR stated that was a Jackson who was past prime and the two fights before that Jackson was getting stunned by lesser comp.

 

4 and 3/4 round knockout wasnt quick enough?

The second fight was faster.

 

Well I'm in the belief that the unintentional headbutt played a role in the first fight ending in 5 rounds cause JJ was winning the fight until the butt happened and just stopped fighting from there as Ferdie Pacheco pointed out.

 

What about the second fight KO1? He was shot to pieces by then?

BTW, Jackson was rocked a few times before the KO anyway if I remember correctly?

 

Look at the size differential between jackson and G-man.
The quality of opponent matters a huge difference in punching power assesment,otherwise Lamar clark is as good as shavers.
G-man has turned into a myth. He never really beat a single great opponent with his much vaunted power.
You might as well say mugabi was proven the GOAT puncher,because he looked great vs the second tier.
Its not just what you look like vs less durable guys,it what you do vs durable guys. In this respect roy jones stopped much better guys than g-man.

 

I just watched the first fight again. Jackson was badly rocked in the first round and I gave him one of the rounds in the fight. The headbutt really didnt appear to be much of any factor in the fight. It was a pretty explosive finish too, hard to believe Jackson got up from that first knockdown.

I remember these fight cards. Great time for lower weight fights to fill the void of the heavyweights at the time.

 

I'd agree Jackson was past prime but he still gave Gman a hell of a war in the first fight

 

Don't recall Benn looking that bad after that fight. He didn't mention any injuries in his bio,either from it. Maybe I'm wrong?!

 

McClelland

 

dont mean to get off topic but... i know jones and mcclennan were friends why didnt they fight, ot seems wierd they missed each other?

 

Thats not true, theyre just defensively better and harder to hit cleanly. You get hit hard in the right spot it doesnt matter how world class you are.
As far as Benn, as I said, the fight could have just as easily been stopped in the first round, and most likely would have had it been in the states. I dont know how you could discount Benn as not being in big trouble, not to mention the ref was interfering big time with Gerald's assault once he had Benn hurt. I would also add that Mclellan could have been feeling the affects of his brain damage and fatigue from that onslaught as early as the second round. There is evidence from one of Gerald's sparring partners that Mclellan was hurt badly by a jab in sparring in preparation for Benn. He exhibited the same symptoms and had to stop sparring but never got himself checked out.

Nevertheless Mclellan's power was showcased in every level of opposition he faced, and in the early stages of his fights.

 

No, its all relative to the level of competition. Thats why up and coming fighters arent facing good fighters when they're younger. They're put in with fighters that are believed to offer them just enough reisistance for their level of ability.
Did Oleg Maskaev have a horrible chin for example? No, but he was knocked out by Oliver Mcall in one round because he probably wasnt readly for that level of opposition in his 7th fight.
Fighters learn as they go how to take and avoid a punch better, how to deliver a punch better, the whole thing.
Ive seen plenty of guys get knocked out with good chins, because if you get hit cleanly and often enough, you're going to get stopped, no matter how good your chin is.

Your missing the point. The fight could have just as easily been stopped, it was worthy of a fair uncontroversial stoppage once Benn was knocked out of the ring. Benn was hurt badly, there is no question there and would have been a very fast ending had it been.