Pacman exposed "sparring partners have to wear 16 ounce gloves"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by spud1, Sep 30, 2010.


  1. sunny

    sunny Active Member Full Member

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    welcome to the debate.
     
  2. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    I don't claim to know, but I'm sure I could hazard a guess or two.

    You saw Pacman's face after the Clottey fight? He swelled realy bad considering he didn't get hit THAT much. Perhaps swelling is a bit of an issue for him at the moment so they're being extra precautious?

    Also, he's a guy that could still make 140, maybe 135 and even 130 and he's sparring 154lb-ers. Maybe Roach doesn't like the thought of him taking shots off these bigger guys day in day out just in preparation.

    I unsderstand your point, and as I said - I don't know why. But I think a large part of why people have responded as they have is because they are familar with spud's posts and his tendancy see conspiracies and shady goings on in everything Pacquiao and Roach do, so they know that what he's getting at is not as innocent as the way you raise it.
     
  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Anyone else think he's a patronising ****er? :huh
     
  4. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Missed what point?

    Look at the thread TOPIC, watch the video and
    He is discussing Pac getting hit, not Pac giving.

    You are trying to reshape the dicussion because it is fairly obvious the TS failed in the initial attempt. You are trying it save it by saying the discussion is about Pac wearing 14 oz - which it may be NOW but not when it started - as you keep trying to say.
     
  5. sunny

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    Hi Shaun - Welcome (finally) all that stuff about ownage looks a bit daft now doesn't it - sorry to be patronising but i felt like i had to really spell it out
     
  6. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    :good;)
     
  7. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ah yes going with the old

    "it was all a big joke"


    :patsch:patsch
     
  8. johnnydrama

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    The purpose of ANY camp is to get the one fighting in the best shape possible while working on fine tuning the fighter in all areas. So for Freddie to have PAC in 14 oz Gloves while the SPARRING PARTNERS are in 16oz gloves is obvious. They don't want an accident to happen where the fighter who is about to fight gets injured....PAC wearing smaller gloves is a tactic that Freddie seems to thinks helps PAC prepare for his opponent. WHy? Who knows.....but based on what we see no one can question it's working.
     
  9. sunny

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    I am reshaping the discussion back to original point in the video (and the post) which invites discussion on an interesting point - this after many posts about lols and ownage inbetween
     
  10. sunny

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    yes i was being patronising but only because i wanted you to understand - and i am totally owning this thread now - lol
     
  11. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Why is it only pac doing this? regardless of sparring partners getting paid.

    theres more then meets the eye with roach he is not stupid

    sorry if you need everything spelled out to you to get a point shaunster
     
  12. Chris85

    Chris85 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL people are still debating :lol:

    Put it this way his sparring partner could be wearing 22oz while manny is bare fisted. It means jack, they are training and most importantly manny is the one to benefit not the sparring partner.

    They could be working on new technique and manny wearing the 14oz is probably better suited than 16oz.

    Funny how all of the sudden we have word class trainers in ESB. Last time we had drug experts, lawyers, now we have trainers :lol:
     
  13. crimson

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    That is my qualm about your post. The original point of the video and original post was not about Pac's 14 oz but the opponents 16 oz.
    Yes both might be related but that is not the point of the TS.
    If Pac was wearing 16oz gloves, Spud1 argument of why his OPPONENT wearing 16 oz gloves and the implication that Roach is hiding Pac's chin (see his other posts) would still stand.
    You are trying to reshape it about Pac's 14 oz and not only, insist that was the point of the TS - which is not true at all.

    Got it?
     
  14. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Well aren't you a condescending *****.

    Firstly, maybe YOU have missed a few things in the thread. A key one being that before anyone had a chance to address Freddie's (there's an apostrophe in there by the way, also please note my use of capital letters to begin sentences and people's names) intention, it was actually spud who brought up the issue of the 160z gloves being too big. This is why people were talking about this, because it is clearly wrong.


    If you follow the thread through you'll see spud make a series of unfounded claims before moving on to another as each one is discredited. Also, the you'll see spud intentionally take debate off on many tangents, many completely irrelevant such as accusing Pacquiao of using PEDs and calling into question another poster's sexual orientation. This is because he has no real interest in debating his original point, he simply makes a poorly though out, provocative opening post and then when he is challenged on his bull**** he cannot admit when he is wrong. You're clearly not familiar with this those, otherwise you surely would not have waded in to his defence.

    You'll also notice that he accuses Roach of allowing Pacquiao to use illegal handwraps, yet I don't see you complaining that this point was not addressed. Funny that.

    One more thing, did you or did you not read the post in which spud claimed that his intention with this thread was just to 'wind us ****s up'? Or maybe you missed that bit. Because it's a tad strange that you'd join a thread so many pages in and take some posters to task for not addressing an point made with the intention of being a wind up.
     
  15. johnnydrama

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    He's doing it for the simple reason that it works for PAC. If he's using smaller gloves in sparring in preparations for his upcoming fight then why is it a problem? Most don't beat their stomachs with sticks...but PAC does it...it seems to work for him. So they do it.