Jimmy Young vs Muhammad Ali Prime for Prime

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  1. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    I think we can say that 64-67 Ali was peaked.
    Young's peak was 75-77, when he beat named opponents like Lyle, (past prime Ali), Shavers, Norton, and Foreman.

    What happens when a peak Ali meets Young? I see Ali winning a decision, but Young would make it very ugly. I don't think Young would hurt Ali, but young did drop George foreman and stun Ron lyle in the rematch with a counter right hand..
    he also dropped michael dokes with a BODY SHOT :deal
    In his ultimate peak, Young could pop... He also backed a young prime Gerry Cooney up with body shots, despite being cut.
     
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  2. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali wins, I don't think he would have to worry about Young hurting him.Surprised at him flooring Dokes, always thought it was a low blow. Ali wins a UD, with Young winning no more than 4 rounds, tops.
     
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  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The fight with a very faded out of shape Ali was very, very close in my estimation. An Ali at his best would have won clearly, even easily. I think he would have been too fast for Young to counter.
     
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  4. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Ali would have to worry. Young ALWAYS had a good punch on him and was quite sneaky with his shots. From the overhand right that he popped George with to the body shots that he caught Dokes with.

    I Pretty much agree, but Ali would have trouble based on Young being game the entire time.
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Prime for prime Young would not lean out of the ring ,he would have jumped the ropes. Ali by easy dec.
     
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  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't you know Young was the Jack Johnson of his time?;)
     
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  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Well ,in this fight he would be Jumping Jack.:good
     
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  8. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    People are selling young short.
    If Young lands his counter right hand hayemaker on Ali's jaw, he's going down, no doubt about it
     
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  9. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    You can argue Young also hurt Norton worse then Ali ever managed in their combined 39 rounds in the ring together.
     
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  10. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Yep. People say Young punches like a ***** even though Young managed to knock ken back with a single right hand
     
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  11. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ifs youngs peak is 75-77 and an almost finished Ali beat him in 76, then why would anyone think Young would do better against a prime Ali?:huh
     
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  12. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali didn't beat him. And Young did as little as he could. If Ali did more, as Norton did, Young would have done more. I wish he just did that little bit more in his fights. He should'nt have let the fights be that close, so they could rob him.
     
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  13. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But back to who would win, Young of course, like he did in 76. Ali was real good with guys who were slow ao bangers, but, a defensive counterpuncher who is quick and smart would ruin his day
     
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  14. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime mid 60's Ali would beat the **** out of Jimmy Young. Jimmy was a GOOD fighter and a great technician but lets not try to rewrite history here.
     
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  15. Stevie G

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    Ali would win by a very clear decision. Even the Ali of 1971 - 74 would leave no doubt on the judges' cards. Simply too fast for Jimmy.
     
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