Question about the Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez I, scoring controversy

too bad... Marquez can't whoop pacquiao ass in one sided fashion.. even thou pacquiao is one dimensional fighter... his only weapon is straight left hand...
jab.. jab.. straight left hand.. repeat 56x:yep:yep

Mayweather can do that... deal

 

Thats exactly what went down the judge didnt score it 10-6 because he felt it was too big of a hole for Marquez to climb out of he also admitted this much,,,, so the whole Marquez beat manny twice bull**** is a ****ing myth... He lost both fights, the 2nd fight was dead even with one knock down which is what gave manny that win...

 

Its funny how the ******* always gets on that one judge who scored the first round 10-7, but dont say a word about the one judge who corruptly and dishonestly gave Pacquiao 7 rounds in that fight.
......by that judges scoring, the knockdowns become irrelevant and Pacquiao would have won the fight anyways.atsch:nut

......yet not a peep about that by the called *******s.:yep

 

Yep, Pac was robbed. It was a costly error as it would've meant another division title for Pac. I can't believe Marquez bitched about this fight for so many years, when the decision could've gone either way and Pac was the only one with a legitimate case for being robbed.

 

At least it'll spare *******s the trouble from defending themselves against the idea that Marquez could've won the fight

 

Actually the majority of boxing beat writers had fight one either scored a draw, or Marquez winning it.
Very few beat writers scored for Pacquiao.


Here's a link that describes that first fight well.
In it they take 5 beat writers and make them score the Pacquiao-Marquez fight, and then they compare their scores with the official judges.

http://theboxingbulletin.blogspot.com/2009/06/score-it-manny-pacquiao-vs-juan-manuel.html

.......of the 5 boxing writers, 3 scored for Marquez, and the other two scored the fight a draw.
.......None of the 5 thought that Pacquiao even with 3 knockdowns in the 1st round, had won the fight.

.......this type of scoring was prevalent with most beat writers.....either they had Marquez winning or had it a draw, but not a win for Pacquiao.

Though you might not like it, I'm just pointing out what are facts.

 

How many times was JMM floored in that fight?

 

Not enough. Obviously he made adjustments and boxed his ass off both times.

 

Shut up.atsch

 

It's true though. It's also true that even though Marquez did his best, he still lost to a weight drained one dimensionl Pacquiao @ 130.

 

Pac may have won the first fight if the other judge scored it 10-6. Pac may also have won if the ref stopped the fight after the 3 knockdown. Two facts that favors pac and what does JMM have for you guys to say he won the first fight?

On the second fight, pac may have lose the fight if he didnt knocked out marquez. Marquez is a warrior and i am a big fan but its stupid to say he won 2 fights against pac when the facts say he didnt.

 

Their first fight is one of the hardest fights I've ever scored. I've watched it many times and I'm never really satisfied I've got it right. Last time I scored it even, which seems fair.

Conversely, I found their second fight easy to score, 114-113 for JMM.

 

Not the same. The 7-5 rounds in Pac's favor could be classified as a judgment error, but the 10-7 score was obviously a stupid mistake by the judge for not knowing the rules. I though understand where you're coming from. I also thought JMM should have won the fight.

 

I am a pac fan, but I also scored the second fight for JMM.

 

that judge who gave Pac 7 rounds is no worse than the judge who gave Marquez 10 rounds. Both are incompetent.