Could Jimmy Young duplicate victory against Foreman. Immed. rematch?

Could Jimmy Young repeat his suprising victory against Foreman. with a better prepared Foreman in an immediate rematch?

 

Yes, with the confidence of the first win, I think it would be an even better win the second time. Goerge is always dangerous though

 

Yes, and it would be easier for him the second time around, with the added confidence that he had, ala vs Ron Lyle.

 

Yeah he would actually KO him this time.
Young had serious power in that right hand, he didn't realize that in the first fight, but now he knows. Had the knockdown been earlier in the round, Young may have stopped him.

 

Yeah, if his aunt had balls, she'd be his uncle.

 

I appreciate your humor Tommygun!!!

 

I'm not kidding. There's a reason Young dropped Dokes with a body shot. There's a reason that he hurt Norton more then Ali did in 39 rounds.
There's a reason that he dropped Foreman with a single overhand right to the forehead.
Young had serious power.

 

No. Foreman's confidence was totally destroyed after the Young fight. Jimmy finished what Ali started.

 

I'm a huge admirer of Young, as you know, but his best punches were as a result of timing and placement...he was a sneaky puncher...when a tired, sloppy Foreman came waddling in range of Young in that 12th round, hewas staggering a bit even before Young hit him...but Young did hit him, and turned that stagger into a legitimite knockdown..Young tagged an overconfident Ali in the secoind round of their fight with a well timed right cross...which startled Ali and convinced him that this wasn't a "Lion of Flanders" or a chinless Richard Dunn in there with him...Young's timing came into play vs Norton when nhe was able to break Ken's eardrum with a well timed right to the head at one point of their fight..overall, however, Young would be hard put to decl Foreman's mother while wearing 6 ounce gloves...and that's just because of Jimmy's natural inclination to not commit himself too much to power punching, in order to not place himself in the line of any serious offense on the part of his opposition. Relying on his natural slipperyness, head movement, body positioning, slipping, ducking, dodging, weaving, deflecting, etc., was the key to Jimmy's greatness...even if you want to refer to mit as a "minor key greatness"...that made him so unique an a major puzzle to anyone he fought. I love the big sound effect you have in that Young-Foreman vid that you show once in a while, and like I say, I like your sense of humor.

 

So "no"...Young wouldn't have repeated his triumph over Foreman? I think that Foreman knew he would be no more successful in a rematch with a guy who made him look so dumb the first time...sometimes a rematch isn't sought for these reasons..stylistic futility...a wise decision on Foreman's part to retire at that point..or maybe he could have continued and hopefully he could have challenged newly crowned "champ" Ken Norton again..a sittting duck, Norton would have been for George..a repeat 1 or 2 round ko...another foregone conclusion and another example of a rematch that Norton's people wanted no part of, had Foreman not retired....stylistic futility again.

 

The simple answer to the question " could he? " is yes. If a man can beat a fighter one time, then he can certainly do it again, as Iran Barkley proved against Thomas Hearns. The question " would he?" is an entirely different matter, and one that's virtually impossible to answer.

 

I didn't put that in Cobra.
Take another look at the vid... I have the UNEDITED verison with no sound effect. like i said, when the punch connected, it made that sound on ITS OWN.
The video of Young-Foreman on youtube is edited because ABC wanted to hide the fact that Young could bang.

 

By this time, Foreman had been taught by Clancy to shorten up his punches. Even after that, he had difficulty connecting on Young. George still had no defense to speak of. Jimmy wasn't just jabbing him silly, but fully exploiting that huge and wide open body as a target also. Foreman didn't fade late just from the heat, but by missing and taking all those body shots as well. He stunned Young very early in round seven, had him cornered, did pound away at Jimmy's body when having him at the disadvantage, yet Young was rallying well before the round was up. George hurt him in a timely manner, but couldn't close the show. That seventh round says much about how a rematch might have unfolded.

Speed, skill and intelligence were all in Jimmy's favor. Toughness and durability were usually advantages Foreman enjoyed, but not against this particular opponent. Attacking Young's body was no more beneficial than going after Ali downstairs. If Jimmy boxed to win, George would have to take him out to prevail.

For a rematch, Young knew how Foreman could hit, but perhaps more importantly, George knew how Jimmy could take it and survive. Does Foreman go for the knockout in a return, or opt to conservatively jab and aim for the body in an attempt to win on points? Ali, Norton, Ocasio, Dokes, Page, Tubbs and Tucker all had speed, defense and other skills George was lacking in. Foreman's only chance is a puncher's chance, and not a very good one, even for him.

Young claimed that when Shavers stopped him, all Earnie had done was bloody up his nose. For the rematch, Shavers decked him with a hook for the only time in Jimmy's career, then barely survived a furious rally. Cooney ripped his face open with what was arguably a lucky punch the second and last time he was halted before the final bell.

Jimmy took the more skilled and stamina endowed Lyle to school for a second time right before Foreman. Young-Foreman II would have been a repeat of that dual victimization, very possibly more one sided than their showdown in San Juan.

 

There's also a reason Young had the pitiful KO percentage of 19.64. Enough is enough