Lil Floyd is only really known to the casual boxing fan in Britain, he certainly is not anything big... I tend to use my Mum as a test. She knows nothing about boxing and cares even less. The non British fighters she knew were: Tyson, Foreman, Frazier and Ali; and although she did not know Holyfield's name, she knew of him in a description she gave.
Well, this was only about 17 years ago on the UK. ODLH is not a name at all, outside of boxing fans, in the UK and I imagine in much of the world. Everyone knows "Float like a butterly, sting like a bee". Most also know that Tyson bit another boxer's ear off.
What Mexicans dont count? Seriously though theres alot of everything out here in So Cal and every white,Black,Asian,Armenian,samoan kid knows who ODLH is:yep
True i was just speaking on California........ Ali was huge when i was akid growing up i even had a Muhamad Ali doll and Muhamad Ali comic book when i was akid, then again that was in the 70s and early 80s. For Adults though Ali will forever be famous at least in all of our lifetimes and long after hes gone.
Ali was so big that he was a state guest of Breznev in the Soviet Union. In 1980, his match with Holmes was broadcast to both the USSR and People's Republic of China. John Lennon said the Beatles were bigger than Christ, but Ali was literally three or four times bigger than the Beatles, who nobody in China even heard of until the news of Lennon's murder brought mention of the Beatles by their state Xinhua news agency for the very first time, a couple months after Holmes-Ali. (Incidentally, Holmes-Ali also made Holmes far more famous than the Beatles world-wide as a result of that match, as the Beatles were banned in both the USSR and Red China.)
I'm a 19 year old from New Jersey. I can tell you from experience that Oscar de la Hoya is more recognizable to my age group than Ali. I was in elementary school the year de la Hoya fought Trinidad and all the girls had pictures of him. All the guys were saying how he would knock Trinidad out. If you don't know, this was the same time Leonardo Di Caprio was a megastar, and Oscar was still more popular. When the Ali film came out with Will Smith was the first time anyone who didn't follow boxing heard of him. Everyone knew George Foreman but didn't know he was a boxer. Mike Tyson was the guy who bit that other guy's ear and no one was supposed to talk about.
ODLH is very popular in the US and in parts of the Latino world, but he's just not a household name in the outside world. Even some of my friends who follow boxing casually don't know who he is.
Yeah, Oscar seems to be extremely popular in some parts of the USA. It's amazing, considering how many Latino fans disliked him back in the 1990s. At some point in his career, he won over some of the Latino community, which is the toughtest community in boxing when it comes to judging boxers because it's so easy for them to have high expectations.
I was shocked when I was watching Legendary Nights and they talked about Mexicans disliking him. I didn't remember that at all.
Most sports fan in the country would definitaly know who Oscar is, non-sports fans or strictly casual sports fans wouldn't be too much in the know seeing as the guy never fought here (unfortunately.)
Ok let me clear things up! I was talking about recognnizable not necessarilly popular id still say about almost half of the Mex/Amer men in So cal still cant stand him. WHere as just about all the women and old ladies love him. Id say for the most part kids like him too. And the Media out here also love him. Did you guys know that he got booed at at the annual East LA christmas parade and he was the grand marshall This was after he beat chavez and many people were still pist off im pretty sure they even threw stuff at him. As for myself im a huge Oscar fan hes probably my 2nd all time favoritefighter. My dad use to like him but not so much no more. I have a few uncles who hate his guts:roll: Maybe its cause their wives and daughters love him
In USA, maybe, here in former USSR countries - a lot of people (and I mean a whole lot) don't have any idea who Muhammad Ali was/is, never heard his name or don't remember hearing it.