David Tua vs. Joe Louis , who wins and how ? ,public poll added.

how are you comparing tua to galento ?
did galento's beaten opponents were on the caliber of outpointing holyfield and rahman ?
and does anyone think that ibeabuchi (who didn't really beat tua) would have got stopped by schmelling ?

 

Byrd and Ibeabuchi never beat Tua

He probably does.

Only against lightheavyweights and light cruiserweights

Based on the simple fact many of them has a bigger lean mass

Maybe he does , he did use thicker and heavier gloves than the ones Louis did and faced much tougher , bigger , stronger opposition .
Evander's opposition does not even fall short from Louis' in the talent aspect.

No he didn't , he had injuries.

Audley Harrisson and Matt Skelton had more power than almost every Louis' opponent simply because they were much bigger and much more muscular.

Because Louis had that great cast iron forged granite chin ?

Aggressive style

Carnerra was ****. Louis was not the only one to flatten that fraud.

What a bad comment.

It was quite a usual Tua fight without the usual ending.

Like the Frauds in Carnerra and Buddy Baer ?

It does , but Louis is still reachable for Tua , although it is borderline.

Just you and about 97% of the rest.

 

Tua has a realistic chance of KOing Louis early but he proved he can stop opponents late as well : Oquendo , Maskaev , Izon.

When did Louis ever face someone like Tua ? and Marciano and Galento are bad answers because neither had Tua's power nor his chin.
Marciano couldn't stop Charles in their first fight when Charles traded with him and was floored by Archie Moore and Jersey Joe Walcott (the bigger shame is and was Moore because Moore was an old LHW , Tua would have never been floored by someone like that even close to his prime)

Tua never had better option than fighting the way he did.
Anyone with his physique and severe range disadvantage would have done best if he fought like Tua or almost like Tua

Why do you think Joe Louis could punish Tua more than Lewis , Ibeabuchi and Rahman ? he did not have better punch resistance than neither one of them , and did not have better power .

 

Well replied. And Byrd didn't really hurt Tua with body punches like this forum made it a legend.

This is a h2h question , times has changed and Tua did not gain a belt just because he is 5'9" . But while 5'9" has no realistic chance against a Klitschko , Lewis and Valuev , he may have just landed enough to stop that plodding top 2 HW (of yours) with a proven suspect chin and leaky defense.

 

And Louis never fought anyone near Tua's level , not in the H2H sense.

While Jersey Joe Walcott was a much bigger and stronger version of Montell Griffin and while Billy Conn and Jack Sharkey may have had some talent , they were in no way close to Tua in their actual h2h ability , so really Louis never beat let alone fought anyone near Tua's level.
Marciano may have done better than Tua against Byrd and maybe against Robert Hawkins and Jeff Wooden too , but put that lightheavyweight in the ring with every other Tua opponent , and he gets smashed .

 

Sorry , but Max Schmelling is far from being an ATG at HW if you base your list on H2H ability , he would have been crushed today by the likes of the Klitschkos , but even by Nicolay Valuev , Sam Peter , David Haye and Odlanier Solis . I think Monte Barrett could have beaten Max Schmelling , although the opposite is possible too. Put Schmelling against the fighters who stopped Barrett and they would have stopped him too , and then others will do so as well.

and stating the truth about Marciano being a light heavyweight does not damage his legacy , just adds to it.

 

Put Oleg Maskaev or Hassim Rahman against Louis' opposition in his prime and each man would have been called "deadliest puncher in the history of boxing"

Was Primo Carnerra any better than Derrick Jefferson ? I think not . He was a glass chinned fraud. And very much so on both accounts.