Ariza concoctions a cause for concern?

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is just some BS Roger made up, but I get what he means coming from the Vietnam era.

    I have no idea what he is or isn't on. I would hope he was clean. It would be great for Boxing. Clean Manny knocking fools out would be a great ambassador for the sport.

    My point is that CLEAN fighters DON'T miss out on the most lucrative fights of their careers over not wanting to take drug tests... Unless... :think
     
  2. rulb

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    Why is this post not quoted by a *****? Hmmmmmmmm they lost the URGE to quote on this one i guess:)
     
  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What the hell does increasing a person's bench press have to do with Manny, an Asian man, consuming 7K per day and not gaining an ounce of fat?

    It isn't quoted because it isn't relevant. Then again, as a *******, you have no idea of how to classify, quantify, and apply data. :lol:
     
  4. johnnydrama

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    I stated that people have spoken out on BOTH SIDES. I just made it a point to highlight that the majority that have spoken are siding with Manny...NOT Floyd. Bob isn't controling what people are saying Slick.

    Manny was on board with the tests even though he really didn't HAVE to agree. Of course the cut off date was the one sticking point but they BOTH were negotiating on that. Ultimately they couldn't agree b/c Floyd stopped at 14 days when the next step would have been 18. They both moved on.

    Are you saying JMM's purse was only $1.6 Million?:huh His purse gurantee was $3.2 Million + the $600K for missing weight. Not to mention the percentage he recvd from the PPV's. $1Million wasn't enough and Floyd knew that. How long have you been watching the sweet sciecne kid?

    The comments were the intial obstacle. That could have and would have killed the fight had PAC been the one spreading the accusations about Floyd being dirty.
     
  5. TonyD407

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    Theres No seceret concoctions......:roll:

    just a testosterone injection every 3 days

    thats why they want to know the exact dates of the usada tests
     
  6. bald_head_slick

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    Sure man.... Whatever.

    No he wasn't. If he was "on board" then he would have tested. He didn't have to agree, but that would mean that he didn't want to fight now wouldn't it? There was no "next step"! How is there a step past 50/50 when everything in the fight was 50/50? :lol:

    The only source I saw had Marquez' guaranteed purse was $1 million. Same deal Baldo got. His guaranteed purse increased to $1.6 after the weight issue. We don't know for sure so I will chalk it up. To say $1 million wasn't enough is foolish when Marquez had NEVER made $1 million in a fight up to that point in his career.

    What comments? Comments by Mayweather's father? That is how insane you guys are. You and your ilk can't find ONE official statement by ANYONE officially connected to Mayweather other than his estranged father rambling.
     
  7. rulb

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    Are you ****ing slow? It means that any athlete could maintain speed and increase power with proper conditioning like what we see in pac right now.

    Now, why pac is not gaining an ounce of fat? Pac trains like an animal, his metabolism is high. He is even burning his calories while asleep.
     
  8. conditioner101

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    This i an accurate statement. Kermit routinely lost 5-6lbs while he slept. His weight would be 164-166 before bed, and when is woke up his weight was 159-161.
    Any negative deviation from his caloric intake was immediately detrimental to his weight, and physical performance.
     
  9. bald_head_slick

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    No you are slow AND you have never boxed in your life. You probably have never worked out.

    WTF does increasing a bench press have to do with throwing a punch? Nothing. So his post was a bit off topic. Also idiot the issue with Pac isn't any one thing. It is a COMBINATION of things that make Pac suspicious. Age, change career trajectory, muscle mass, reluctance to test, opponent choice, etc...

    Again, you have never worked out in your life. Working out like an animal doesn't mean crap. If you are at your MAX weight and eating like that you WILL gain a smooth layer of fat and NOT be ripped.
     
  10. GOW7

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    How many calories did Kermit intake a day?
     
  11. bald_head_slick

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    Come on man. If Kermit was in CA he would lose most of that in water weight. No way an Asian male puts down 7K calories per day at the edge of weight for his frame and stays ripped.

    Taking calories away and shoveling down so many that the guy is turning down food are completely different. There are FEW 5'6 Asian males who can put down 7K calories per day and ONLY bulk up. The body just doesn't work like that.
     
  12. bald_head_slick

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    Kermit was probably ravenous.
     
  13. rulb

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    You are becoming funny here! Bench press doesnt have to do with throwing a punch? A punch doesnt rely much on biceps, triceps or your deltoid muscles. A punch may also be generated from your pectoralis muscles and trapezius muscles to increase its power.
     
  14. GOW7

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    :rofl
    I never understood why people can't use common sense about this. All doping errr I mean joking aside. Why the hell would they want exact dates with 2 of them being pointless . The 1st press conference to announce the fight. One 30 days away and one after the fight. Are people f'in serious.
     
  15. conditioner101

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    Kermits increases in physical strength was tremendous, but the increase in his punching power was not on par with thee increase in his physical strength. I felt it was important that Kermit be as strong as physically possible to help him hold his ground when fighting inside, or when he wanted to move his opponent while tied up. His punching power did increase, but not to the degree you would have thought given how strong he got. To increase punching power i focused on exercises that increased his core strength, and exercises that increased his ability to rotate his torso more explosively.