Whos is better? Ottkes 21 defences or Hopkins 20 defences?

1)hopkins was a middleweight. debut and later career aside, 40 fights at middleweight makes him a middleweight

2)oscar win was for money, trinidad was ranked #2 pound for pound at 6 pounds lighter. it was a huge win.

 

I didnt say dick about Oscar and you have no idea of either train of thought in boxing regarding natural weight. And its right above this response in black and white. So its a bit hard to debate someone who has no idea what the debate is about.

 

You've convinced me, they're both better than Calzaghe, good man

 

At least herzerber (however you spell his name) tries to put up an effort even if its all bull****...Headgiver just talks about your vcash and never backs his points...My point is herzberg atleast tries!:rofl

Dont get me wrong...You do bring up a damn good point about Herzberg and I agree with that...I just think Headgiver takes the cake!

 

what would you consider trinidads and de la hoya's 3 best wins at middleweight?

 

like i said oscar doesn't count but in that ONE middleweight fight tito looked amazing. he looked amazing his entire career except for the oscar fight. he dominated 154 while he was there. you make it sound like tito jumped from lightweight to 160...it was 6 pounds. let it go. it was a great win, denying it does you no favours

 

lets here why hopkins reign was better than ottkes rudyard? :think

lets see how ignorant and narrow minded you are :yep

you've probably never watched a ottke fight in your life and are just making sweeping generalisations because you've read a few editions of your ring magazine comic

 

seriously, what a shambolic display of sickenning ignorance :dead:dead:dead:-(

 

Hopkins 160lb record ****ing stinks and most people know it.
Hes a great crafty boxer but that ledger of names just plain stinks.
Apart from beating up old fat blown up "legends" it stinks of HBO loving.

The moment he step-up he lost.
Taylor LOSS. x2
Calzaghe LOSS
ROID up RJJ LOSS
Segundo Mercado DRAW Hopkins eat the canvas twice, I had it as a loss atsch

 

right off to bed, its that time zone thing i educated you ignorant minnions about :deal

some of us are up early in the morning to earn a living whilst you lot stay up smoking crack from your social welfare handouts :dead


:hi:

 

I consider Hopkins reign better because he's faught better fighters IMO and he didnt have to rely on hometown cooking to secure a victory.

**** the spelling of his name...means nothing to me ****boy!

 

Glad you've entertained yourself tonight, at least someone had a laugh at your expense.