Do you feel these heavyweight fights consisted of robberies, etc.??

Foreman-Briggs is the worst on that list.

 

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...... Actually last time I looked in the Tillis-Tyson thread/poll the votes were something like 63 for Tyson, and 4 for Tillis .... so that doesn't really signify any real current of "revisionism".

I thought Tyson won it absolutely, but I also think the fight was quite close.

 

the tyson- tillis fight was only close because tyson was over pacing himself and hadnt yet made the required class adjustment. certainly mike would have been ready in his next fight to wipe tillis out. But Tyson only won 4 rounds clearly, so its open to dispute.

I had spinks beating holmes the first time but had holmes shading witherspoon, wiliams and spinks the 2nd time. Young out foxed a lazy ali but it was such a non effort by both i would call a draw.

 

All of these were pretty bad decisions...the worst of course were Ali-Young and Ali-Norton ...both outright robberies.

 

I thought Ali-Young was the least debatable decision of them all (though haven't seen Holmes-Harris or Foreman-Schulz)

 

All I said was that there was always someone out there...and there's four of them there, I guess. There's at least one in every crowd.

 

Yeah, I couldn't really see what it did on that list.

I haven't seen all of the fights listed, but I can just say that I think the word "robbery" gets thrown around too much (certainly when used about Tyson-Tillis). There are often fights that could have gone either way and you may feel the wrong man got the win, but that's not a robbery.

The robberies I've seen have actually in most cases been judged as draws. Off the top of my head the worst are Whitaker-Chavez, Lewis-Holyfield I and Holyfield-SNV.

 

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A close fight is never a robbery. If there are a lot of close rounds and a similar number of decisive rounds scored by both fighters there isn’t much room for complaint. After all, the inconclusive rounds may be scored a variety of different ways making a case for either fighter. Regarding close fights, there is no right or wrong just popular and unpopular decisions.
There are some outrageous decisions out there where one guy was beaten up bad and got the nod, that is a different subject and rare in title fights.

 

Revisionism is the wrong word, I guess. But I didn't even think anyone thought it was. How could they? Foreman Hook makes a thread about it and all of a sudden it's a valid question.

 

Page-Chaplin II, to some degree, was a questionable verdict.

 

Like i said, I thought Tyson-Tillis was close, so i'm not outraged that a very small minority thought Tillis won.
I thought the two judges who had it 6-4 Tyson had it right. A lot of the rounds were close.

Tillis was never really hurt, or damaged, the fight went the distance. It certainly wasn't a shut-out or particularly one-sided. Therefore the question was valid. And the consensus answer was a resounding "no, Tillis lost".

It's not like questioning Calzaghe-Lacy or Ali-Terrell.
It's more like Clay-Jones, IMO.

 

Tyson-Tillis was not really a close fight, there were just some competitive rounds for the green Tyson who was still learning a lot.
I scored it 8-2 for Tyson, the same as Judge Tony Moret & including the beautiful knockdown in round 4, that would make the fight 98-91 for Iron Mike.

 

The only one I would list as a total "ROBBERY" was Foreman against Briggs - that one was huge - oh sorry actually Spoon Holmes was a robbery also I gave that one to Spoon by a mile actually - Ali young and Ali Norton 3 I did score for Young and Norton - but not by as wide margins as I did Foreman over Briggs and Spoon over Holmes. Spinks Holmes 2 and Foreman Schultz I had about even - maybe a round in it - definately had Tyson beating Tillis but was competetive

Another awful result was Lennox Holy 1 Lennox won that one by about 6 rounds in my opinion - funnily enough I had Lennox Holy 2 about only a round in it

 

"Competitive rounds" can also be called "close rounds".

Arguably round 4 could have still gone to Tillis, or been even. I thought Tillis was better in that round.

8-2 is a justifiable score too. That's the thing about scoring some fights, sometimes a wide range of scores can be valid.