Famous Sparring beatdowns

Trixie · Oct 8, 2010

This rumour about Monzon dropping Frasier stemmed from a short sound byte in a documentary and was stated by Antuofermo. One of our boardmembers... I don't remember which one, had the chance to speak to and ask Antuofermo about it and he said himself that it was something he had heard from someone in his team but had not actually witnessed it personally. I would lean towards it not having happened, but who knows...

Kalasinn · Oct 8, 2010

An aging 35 year old Trevor Berbick was schooling Tyson in sparing for the Douglas fight.

World heavyweight champion Mike Tyson resumed sparring in Tokyo. Tyson, who has been having trouble with balance and timing since he arrived in Japan Jan. 16, returned to the ring for six rounds after a five-day break. Though Tyson threw a lot of hard punches, he had difficulty setting up combinations and was repeatedly tagged by Trevor Berbick. Tyson has sparred only 30 rounds in the past two weeks, and was knocked down last Wednesday by Greg Page, though Tyson's trainers called it a slip. Tyson's opponent, Buster Douglas, also was unimpressive in training. But manager John Johnson isn't worried, saying he expected Douglas to knock Tyson out early.
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http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...2023249_1_tyson-trevor-berbick-buster-douglas

At the time I bet readers chuckled at the notion of Douglas upsetting Tyson at all, let alone knocking him out early, in reality Douglas had to practically punch Tyson into the canvas for 10 rounds, subjecting him to a sustained & hellacious beating before he eventually dropped; James "Buster" Douglas had shocked the world.

Bokaj · Oct 8, 2010

MagnaNasakki said: ↑

I will tell you, once you reach the level of power most of those guys has, it all hurts. .

Different types. George wouldn't daze but would make your whole face or body quake with pain. He never buzzed or staggered me, but I'd feel our rounds for days. And our styles were incredibly similar(Slow, ponderous, strong and heavy-handed), and often when we'd trade connects, we'd both joke about how they hurt right there in the ring. I was just a sucker for a great jab, still am, and whenever George felt the need to take over he'd just start drowning me with his.

Lennox and Klitschko, the sharp, heavy jolt that took your legs. I equate them to gunshots; The pain wasnt awful, but the impact was, and both men put me down. Klitschko was faster and smarter than Lewis, but Lennox didn't take any ****, and the harder you hit him, the harder he'd come back at you.

Tua would knock my headgear clear to the other side of my head alot. He was the easiest to deal with from a boxing perspective, but everytime he'd land, I'd lose sight of him, which made the next punch or two sustained unpleasant.

Evander just brought it. He didn't have the heaviest shots persay, but he was in your ass every second and I could never be bothered to get into similar condition. He'd just grind me down and beat my ass till I waved the white flag.
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Thanks for sharing.:good Great read!

Bokaj · Oct 8, 2010

young griffo said: ↑

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plQKfAO01eU

Jones looks the much better fighter even back then.
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Wow! What strikes me is how technically skilled Jones is here, and shows it off against a very good opponent. He looks like a true, slick technician in there. No real unorthodoxy showing.

lefthook31 · Oct 8, 2010

MagnaNasakki said: ↑

I will tell you, once you reach the level of power most of those guys has, it all hurts. .

Different types. George wouldn't daze but would make your whole face or body quake with pain. He never buzzed or staggered me, but I'd feel our rounds for days. And our styles were incredibly similar(Slow, ponderous, strong and heavy-handed), and often when we'd trade connects, we'd both joke about how they hurt right there in the ring. I was just a sucker for a great jab, still am, and whenever George felt the need to take over he'd just start drowning me with his.

Lennox and Klitschko, the sharp, heavy jolt that took your legs. I equate them to gunshots; The pain wasnt awful, but the impact was, and both men put me down. Klitschko was faster and smarter than Lewis, but Lennox didn't take any ****, and the harder you hit him, the harder he'd come back at you.

Tua would knock my headgear clear to the other side of my head alot. He was the easiest to deal with from a boxing perspective, but everytime he'd land, I'd lose sight of him, which made the next punch or two sustained unpleasant.

Evander just brought it. He didn't have the heaviest shots persay, but he was in your ass every second and I could never be bothered to get into similar condition. He'd just grind me down and beat my ass till I waved the white flag.
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Did you come down to Palm Beach to work with Tua? I was in the gym during alot of his sessions. How about Lewis, were you with Butler and Harris working in?

johnmaff36 · Oct 8, 2010

Trixie said: ↑

This rumour about Monzon dropping Frasier stemmed from a short sound byte in a documentary and was stated by Antuofermo. One of our boardmembers... I don't remember which one, had the chance to speak to and ask Antuofermo about it and he said himself that it was something he had heard from someone in his team but had not actually witnessed it personally. I would lean towards it not having happened, but who knows...
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I think AlFrancis was going to ask Frazier or Antuofermo,if joe sparred Monzon, at a boxing do in Wales over the summer. Whatever happened, it didnt come to fruition due to one or the other not showing up therefore saving Al from a potentially awkward moment. I wouldnt have fancied asking either. I personally think its bollox

john garfield · Oct 8, 2010

MagnaNasakki said: ↑

I will tell you, once you reach the level of power most of those guys has, it all hurts. .

Different types. George wouldn't daze but would make your whole face or body quake with pain. He never buzzed or staggered me, but I'd feel our rounds for days. And our styles were incredibly similar(Slow, ponderous, strong and heavy-handed), and often when we'd trade connects, we'd both joke about how they hurt right there in the ring. I was just a sucker for a great jab, still am, and whenever George felt the need to take over he'd just start drowning me with his.

Lennox and Klitschko, the sharp, heavy jolt that took your legs. I equate them to gunshots; The pain wasnt awful, but the impact was, and both men put me down. Klitschko was faster and smarter than Lewis, but Lennox didn't take any ****, and the harder you hit him, the harder he'd come back at you.

Tua would knock my headgear clear to the other side of my head alot. He was the easiest to deal with from a boxing perspective, but everytime he'd land, I'd lose sight of him, which made the next punch or two sustained unpleasant.

Evander just brought it. He didn't have the heaviest shots persay, but he was in your ass every second and I could never be bothered to get into similar condition. He'd just grind me down and beat my ass till I waved the white flag.
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Riveting reading your first-person account, 'n candor, sparring with top-notch fighters, MN. Your insider impressions -- 'n how well you write about it -- is a welcome addition to the board.

Manassa · Oct 8, 2010

MagnaNasakki said: ↑

I will tell you, once you reach the level of power most of those guys has, it all hurts. .

Different types. George wouldn't daze but would make your whole face or body quake with pain. He never buzzed or staggered me, but I'd feel our rounds for days. And our styles were incredibly similar(Slow, ponderous, strong and heavy-handed), and often when we'd trade connects, we'd both joke about how they hurt right there in the ring. I was just a sucker for a great jab, still am, and whenever George felt the need to take over he'd just start drowning me with his.

Lennox and Klitschko, the sharp, heavy jolt that took your legs. I equate them to gunshots; The pain wasnt awful, but the impact was, and both men put me down. Klitschko was faster and smarter than Lewis, but Lennox didn't take any ****, and the harder you hit him, the harder he'd come back at you.

Tua would knock my headgear clear to the other side of my head alot. He was the easiest to deal with from a boxing perspective, but everytime he'd land, I'd lose sight of him, which made the next punch or two sustained unpleasant.

Evander just brought it. He didn't have the heaviest shots persay, but he was in your ass every second and I could never be bothered to get into similar condition. He'd just grind me down and beat my ass till I waved the white flag.
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Good stuff :good

johnmaff36 · Oct 8, 2010

MagnaNasakki said: ↑

First time I ever sparred a big name was when George Foreman came to the gym I helped run with my father-in-law. After failing to make the 88 Olympic team, I neglected some nice offers to turn pro(I was not the most talented fighter, but I hit like a mother****er) to try to start my family right, and just never got around to it. Years and years later I'm no longer fighting but training 6 days a week operating a facility, and George Foreman came in wanting to work out. We let him, but he wanted to spar, and we had nothing but kids 185 and below. Big George looks at me and says,

"You're a very large fella, friend, would you work with me?"

We sparred a couple rounds, he signed me as a partner for 3 straight camps, which allowed me to leap frog to other camps and get work.

It's always exciting to spar the best. I always got mess for never having turned pro, but I fought Lennox Lewis in the amateurs, as well as Riddick Bowe as we were both NY boys, and could box a bit, and bang alot. I was a pretty popular fella throughout the 90's in the gym. Even got to go oversea's in the new millenium and work.

I'm an older guy now, but I love boxing, been doing it forever. Being born with large enough genes to share the ring with history is always a fond, if painful memory.
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Great story Magna. Love hearing these first hand :good:good

Monte Fisto · Oct 8, 2010

on the Monzon/Frazier debate. someone posted a video a while back of some guy saying that monzon did do just that. no video eveidence so far though

kinski · Oct 8, 2010

Mayweather vs Paul Spadafora Tyson supposedly dropped by Mcall?!

MagnaNasakki · Oct 8, 2010

lefthook31 said: ↑

Did you come down to Palm Beach to work with Tua? I was in the gym during alot of his sessions. How about Lewis, were you with Butler and Harris working in?
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Sparred David back at his home in NZ. Got to go with Chauncy Welliver too on that trip.
And I sparred Lennox more as a return for our amateur match than anything else. One time thing, never went into camp with him. Thank God for my brain.

mattdonnellon · Oct 8, 2010

Jeff Merrit broke Earnie Shaver's jaw in training,
Denver Ed Smith schooled Gus Ruhlin
Corbett dropped Jeffries....

Sakura · Oct 8, 2010

MagnaNasakki said: ↑

I will tell you, once you reach the level of power most of those guys has, it all hurts. .

Different types. George wouldn't daze but would make your whole face or body quake with pain. He never buzzed or staggered me, but I'd feel our rounds for days. And our styles were incredibly similar(Slow, ponderous, strong and heavy-handed), and often when we'd trade connects, we'd both joke about how they hurt right there in the ring. I was just a sucker for a great jab, still am, and whenever George felt the need to take over he'd just start drowning me with his.

Lennox and Klitschko, the sharp, heavy jolt that took your legs. I equate them to gunshots; The pain wasnt awful, but the impact was, and both men put me down. Klitschko was faster and smarter than Lewis, but Lennox didn't take any ****, and the harder you hit him, the harder he'd come back at you.

Tua would knock my headgear clear to the other side of my head alot. He was the easiest to deal with from a boxing perspective, but everytime he'd land, I'd lose sight of him, which made the next punch or two sustained unpleasant.

Evander just brought it. He didn't have the heaviest shots persay, but he was in your ass every second and I could never be bothered to get into similar condition. He'd just grind me down and beat my ass till I waved the white flag.
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Fine reminiscing .. of this increase. thanks:good

Kalasinn · Oct 8, 2010

MagnaNasakki said: ↑

I will tell you, once you reach the level of power most of those guys has, it all hurts. .

Different types. George wouldn't daze but would make your whole face or body quake with pain. He never buzzed or staggered me, but I'd feel our rounds for days. And our styles were incredibly similar(Slow, ponderous, strong and heavy-handed), and often when we'd trade connects, we'd both joke about how they hurt right there in the ring. I was just a sucker for a great jab, still am, and whenever George felt the need to take over he'd just start drowning me with his.

Lennox and Klitschko, the sharp, heavy jolt that took your legs. I equate them to gunshots; The pain wasnt awful, but the impact was, and both men put me down. Klitschko was faster and smarter than Lewis, but Lennox didn't take any ****, and the harder you hit him, the harder he'd come back at you.

Tua would knock my headgear clear to the other side of my head alot. He was the easiest to deal with from a boxing perspective, but everytime he'd land, I'd lose sight of him, which made the next punch or two sustained unpleasant.

Evander just brought it. He didn't have the heaviest shots persay, but he was in your ass every second and I could never be bothered to get into similar condition. He'd just grind me down and beat my ass till I waved the white flag.
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Superb vivid recollections. :good

Do you mean Wlad Klitschko?

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