Hopkins MW resume vs Sturms MW resume. Whos is really better & who would win?

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  1. MarvellaHogg

    MarvellaHogg Newcastle 5-1 5under1and Full Member

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    Horrendous crack in here
    strum get's KO'd by a light punching JMW , Draws with a reality star & scrapes past a AA victim & to make the arguement closer the bloke tries to take out ODLH & Tito....How does that work

    Hopkins all day everyday
     
  2. Jorodz

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    i think the thread is being a little ridiculous but making a valid point that hopkins middleweight resume is overrated a lot. his skills are overrated to but not as much as his middleweight reign. It was a great reign, notable for it's longevity but much like sturms, it's littered with good but not great names (and a couple of horrible ones). Now, hopkins fought better comp (not a big accomplishment) and never suffered an embarassing KO loss to a junior middleweight. but a thread not that long back asked if hopkins could be considered best all time if he beat valuev (belt holder at the time). Hopkins could NEVER be considered the best and could never be considered the best at middleweight. ****, top 5 might be a big stretch
     
  3. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    if hopkins isnt tope five at middleweight of all time then sturm isnt even top 50
     
  4. Jorodz

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    probably not:goodi put sturm leagues below briscoe, valdes and at least alan minter was the REAL middleweight champ.

    but my top 4 reads....hagler, greb, robinson, monzon (unsure the order for certain). the fifth spot could be argued by a couple of guys (burley, ketchel, etc.)
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hopkins struggles with fast 2 handed fighters who are his own size. This is why Sturm would outpoint Hopkins.
    For people who say Sturm hasnt tested himself, he has a win over the current IBF MW champ, not to mention that he has also won the WBA belt and WBO belt during his career
     
  6. Jorodz

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    if the purpose of the thread was the make people reconsider hopkins placement and the automatic assumption that he would beat sturm, then it's succeeded in a way (at least on me)

    Do I think hopkins is better than sturm? Obviously
    Do I think hopkins wins automatically cause of that? No. Sturm would present stylistic challenges to him

    Their resumes are seperated in large part due to longevity and length of reigns, but barring a few exceptions, not necessarily quality of opposition
     
  7. HEADBANGER

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    where would you place robert allan on that list? :lol:
     
  8. Jorodz

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    :rastagood point...couple of spots above Hakkar that's for sure
     
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    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who wins this Super6?

    Robert Allen
    Morrade Hakkar
    Steve Frank
    Rick Thornberry
    Branko Sobot
    Tocker Pudwill
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good ***** bumping my thread :lol:
     
  12. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didn't Felix Sturm got koed by a journeyman boxer. Oh yeah he's a real threat to an ATG in Hopkins, lol. Hopkins by 12 round schooling, even now.
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    sturm has a very good jab, and that will always take you far ion boxing. but he wont beat hopkins. it might be a **** tedious and boring fight, but hopkins gets the victory
     
  14. MaliBua

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    yeah and Hopkins has lost on points to ****ing Bum and got a Draw too :lol:

    Hopkins resume is Garbage.
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    No Sturms never been KOd by a journeyman boxer :patsch. Obviously someone who dosent know what they are talking about.
    Didnt Hopkins only scrape a draw with Mercado :lol:. Someone who does know what they are talking about.
    Notice the difference :deal