Whos is better? Ottkes 21 defences or Hopkins 20 defences?

Again ****boy! This **** isnt gonna help your arguement! Step up your game lame ass boy!

 

Hopkins didn't have most of his title defenses in question. Steve Ottke, lost at least 4-5 fights but was corrupt Germany. Hopkins, was always dominate in his victories.

 

Ottke: WBA SMW, IBF SMW
Hopkins: IBF MW, WBO MW, WBA MW, WBC MW, The Ring Champion

Ottke: P4P N/A
Hopkins: P4P #1

Ottke: Had problems Vs Markussen, Reid, Johnson, Brewer, Tate, Mitchell and Starie
Hopkins: Had Problems vs Taylor, and RJJ

Ottke: Ducked Calzaghe (WBO Ring #1, and #2 during his time) (Calzaghe and ottke were just :gayfight)
Hopkins: Didnt duck anyone in his division.

Ottke: Never dominated the SMW division since he didnt fight Calzaghe who was ranked above him at times.
Hopkins: Dominated the whole division and became Undisputed MW champ within 5 years

Ottke: Fought 2 champs in Brewer and Mitchell
Hopkins: Fought 5 champs in Holmes, Trinidad, Joppy, ODLH, Taylor 2

Ottke: Fought 3 Future champs in Johnson, Branco, and Mundine
Hopkins: Fought 2 Future champs in Johnson, ODLH, (3 if you include RJJ at MW)

Ottke: Fought 3 Former Champs in Mitchell(X2), Reid, and Krajnc
Hopkins: Fought 7 Former Champs in Jackson(X2), Brown (X3), Holmes, Trinidad (X4), Daniels, Joppy (X2), ODLH (X7)
Those numbers are the number of belts won on seperate occasions.

Source: Boxrec Pwned you with your food supply there son.

 

probably the most well thought out counter-argument on the thread...and they won't likely even read it.

"europe, europe...ottke...hopkins sucks...ottke knocked out mundine....pwned"

the fact is, it was well said by (i think lance uppercut)...they both have impressive reigns and a lot of longevity and NEITHER fought hall of fame level comp. just dominated good fighters in relatively weak divisions. no more, no less

 

wonder what bailey and headbanger think about the reid fight? reid got deducted ppoints for punching ottke -_-

 

You guys are pathetic, judging a fighter based on Box rec.
I have seen most of his fights. Ottke got the nod in every close decision and won fights which he clearly lost (Reid, Danish fighter)

It was absolute disgrace. He got a title fight against Brewer after just 12 professional fights. Then has two close fights against the champion and of course he gets the nod (despite being the challenger) because the fight was at home.Scorecards were cmmunicate to him between rounds which is illegal. On top of that, corrupt judges and sometimes even referees, and promoter Sauerland. To begin with, he would never have won the title form Brewer iwith hold and run style. Disgusting.

 

Ottke, really....:rofl:rofl:rofl

All his fight were in Germany, except one, nuff said.

 

Shows you havent been keeping up. Read below a much earlier post

:deal

 

Wasn't Ottke the guy who lost a few fights but won due to corrupted judges, he's also German?

 

Seriously, Sven Ottke......

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One of boxing biggest fraud ever.

 

Yes, VS Reid, Mitchell, Larsen and Brewer

 

Once again you have had to run to Boxrec, something you try to say about me but fail to understand that unlike you, im not a kid of 22, and saw the fights first time round. I wont tell you to lay off Boxrec because its obvious you wouldnt know anything about these fighters you try and debate about .
P4P is a fictitional thing, used by The Ring magazine atsch.
Rather than destroy another of my fanboys quotes, just read below. You may be clever enough to work it out

:deal

 

bailey got pwned with his own food suppy, boxrec so hard that instead of answering the post he was really offended that I exposed his food supply.

And dont try and dismiss that post regarding which:

Anyway the post is below but it was already answered by bailey-MODEatsch

Answer it then

 

Hopkins' win against Trinidad is not "overrated". This word is so overused.
Trinidad was 40-0 at the time, a freakin monster, and was supposed to blow through the middleweight division with ease, after beating the **** out of Joppy. Instead he got taken to school and KTFO. If you don't think that was a great BHop win, you're just a pure hater.

And the 'blown up welterweights' argument is bull**** as well. What fights is Hagler known for? Hearns? Duran? Leonard? Duran was a lightweight for ****'s sake.

 

Bailey got owned in a huge way. He just like Herbzig are the 2 ******ed posters that always defend any european fighters in which they think Mayweather, Williams or any other americans are avoided to fight any european that many here don't even know who they are.