Whatta U want from the SRR biopic?

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  1. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't waffle, M. How do ya really feel?
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Raging Bull did a good job at staying neutral in my opinion. Here's Jake LaMotta, a great fighter, a **** hole of a man. Judge away.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think it did, a loss was portrayed as robbery where his opponent was out after the bell, did that actually happen? Did it show the Marshall loss? Did it have Lamotta say 'why would I fight Charles Burley when I can fight Zivic'

    It was honest about the wife beating, and I don't think the black and white characterisation of Lamotta or the other fighters who get called similar, is accurate, like all people they are both good and bad
     
  4. McGrain

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    Focus on him ducking Charley Burley :lol:

    Here's what i'd like to see. Every fight scene begins with a bottom-rope level shot of the action. We just see Robinson's feet moving to his internal beat, dancing circles, pivoting around his more stationary opponent, punches implied by pivots and turns and lean-to, but all shot at that level. We can focus momentarily upon faces in the crowd as the action continues, his women, his manager, his kids, whatever. Then we go into the ring for the defining action of the fight, but always return to the ring-apron view for any KO, the shocked faces of blood-splattered ring siders as the battered opponent drops, here to see the glits and glamour of the new superstar, shocked by the brutality of his actual job, tearing fighters to pieces with the greatest offence seen in the sport up until that point.

    Now take that motif and run with it. No matter how glamorous and fun the ride gets, always always bring the focus back to the violence which lurks just beneath the surface. Keep it about the boxing even when there is none, keep it edgy and violent. Robinson was a bad mother-****er, first and foremost.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's true, but it makes me furious. Why can't we see it for what it is?
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    It was slightly bias when it came to the combat, but I thought it took a great deal of balls to project an honest view of him as a personality. A credit to Jake himself, I bet he was having a wonderful time at the premiere watching him beat up his wife.
     
  7. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you don't know chapter 'n verse about someone, P, can you enjoy a biopic solely as a compelling film?
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    Because the offspring don't want to see their dad portrayed as a ****?
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    OFcourse, but if you do know too much about a person or sport and it doesn't ring true its often annoying as we see it as unrealistic, where as those who are ignorant just take it for what it is. Ignorance is indeed bliss in movie viewing

    1 of the hardest things will be casting someone charasmatic enough to play Ray. Will Smith who I consider a very good actor pretty much failed with ALi
     
  10. PowerPuncher

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    Hell I say cast Floyd Mayweather Jr :D He's done his role research, pretending to be Ray for years now
     
  11. Leon

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    :huh
     
  12. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Beating up women, being the ultimate businessmen when it comes to prizefighting, etc.

    Floyd doesn't look like Sugar though.
     
  13. Leon

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    SRR's military service should be included in the movie. The most important part being how he refused to fight exhibition matches for service members, unless black soldiers were also allowed to watch.
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would want them to use nothing but actual archival clips and vids of Robinson himself fighting so as not to be insulted by just another sub par, poorly choreographed simulated fight scenes which always suck. No actor, no matter how well prepared and coached for the occasion of making this movie can do justice to the real SRR.
     
  15. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We may have a very good idea of the film's focus. The screenplay's being written by the author of SWEET THUNDER, the SRR bio the film's based on.

    Doubt very much if it'll veer from his POV.