Should AA be banned?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JASPER, Oct 9, 2010.


  1. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AA was disqualified, that's all the punishment that is warranted. AA was careless, but his blows were not premeditated. Just the result of frustration and reflexes being quicker than his thoughts.
     
  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no way to prove it was intentional.

    The fact Dirrell's career may be over is not the point.

    And it was actually Dirrell's fault he was hit when he was down because he goes down on purpose whenever the pressure is being applied, so sooner or later, it was going to happen.
     
  3. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And how can you be sure it was the illegal punch (I use that term loosely in this case) that did the damage?
     
  4. Davo-The-Don

    Davo-The-Don Big Swinging Thang Full Member

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    Ban Dirrell for being a *****. The guys a joke.
     
  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly.

    Abraham was the one who lost out because he was possibly going to stop Dirrell, yet blew any chance of that and got himself DQed. That's enough punishment.

    The fact that Dirrell was knocked out is completely besides the point. If the boxing commisions ban people on a case to case basis, that would ruin the sport. The rules are there for a reason.
     
  6. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Another good point. The illegal punch he landed did not have the same force behind it, that the one which knocked Dirrell down had. Anyone defending Abraham could say it was one of many legal shots which hurt him. In boxing, most cases of brain damage or death occur after a gruelling fight, not after one single shot.
     
  7. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he goes down intentionally it is up to the ref to doc a point for his actions. BUT as a fighter , you know that you never hit a man when he is down. like in hockey when you do an illegal hit to the head intentionally there is serious punishment.

    people always showed "the hit" in slow motion to claim AD had a delayed reaction . . . how many people really watched the delay in the punch that AA threw after AD was down.

    I like AA and thought he would win the Super Six . . . but he knew what he was about to due and was desperate for a KO.
     
  8. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    has a CT scan or an MRI been done to Dirrel's head/brain?
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    He went down because there was water all over Abrahams corner you limey ******. :lol:
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He also went down in neutral corners against Froch and Abraham. You can say it was because the canvas was wet, but that may not be the case, as it wasn't all the other times.
     
  11. Doc (aka Meke)

    Doc (aka Meke) Active Member Full Member

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    a question to you - do you believe AA when saying he didn't realise Dirrell was down (leaving besinds the point that AA was accusing Dirrell for acting aside)? If you ask me, I believe him to the same extent I believe Dirrell's reaction was real.

    If that is the case, this complete discussion is pointless. If not, I'm not sure how you would know it is not the case and how would you prove the problems are associated with the particular punch?! And what about Bika, RJJ and others including Dirrell who committed similar if not worse fouls? Those things happens, the reason we have this debate is because of Dirrell team's claims which are yet to be confirmed to be true.
     
  12. Doc (aka Meke)

    Doc (aka Meke) Active Member Full Member

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    of course, they left it there for Dirrell to slip..those evil Germans... ah, that is you MW... sorry, if I knew it was u I wouldnt bother.
     
  13. Bad Dog

    Bad Dog Boxing Addict banned

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    No. There's nothing wrong with Dirrell. I thought these ghetto boys were meant to be tough?
     
  14. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No ... IF there actually is any damage (which i doubt) than its much more likely that it was caused by the MUCH harder legal blows.
    The one he took when he was down was grazing at best which you can see obviously in the slow mo replay.

    But for the sake of argument lets say AAs vicious superhuman knockout blow caused all this damage on poor Direll its still ****ing boxing and **** happens, hes not the first boxer that got hit while hes down and people never got banned for that either.

    AA got all the punishment he deserved.
     
  15. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely NOT.
    Abraham did what he was suppose to do.
    And thats knock his opponent out.
    Boxers can get nailed going down, crouching, slipping and even when partially down.
    The object of the game was to attack.
    And where was the referee.
    Behind them --- on the other side of the ring ????
    The reality is that there is a risk in Boxing.