***The Close Fight or Robbery Thread***

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyone else got a scorecard for Zarate-Pintor? I wanna see how close I was to others..........
     
  2. Godfather

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    1. Pintor
    2. Pintor
    3. Pintor
    4. Zarate [10-8]
    5. Zarate
    6. Pintor
    7. Zarate
    8. Pintor
    9. Zarate
    10. Pintor
    11. Zarate
    12. Zarate
    13. Pintor
    14. Zarate
    15. Pintor

    142-142
     
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  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Okay, that was my card, obviously..........now Godfather's.........

    1. Pintor
    2. Pintor
    3. Pintor
    4. Zarate [10-8]
    5. Zarate
    6. Pintor
    7. Zarate
    8. Pintor
    9. Zarate
    10. Pintor
    11. Zarate
    12. Zarate
    13. Pintor
    14. Zarate
    15. Pintor




    I guess it shows how close a lot of those rounds were; we differ on an awful lot of them. The end result is only a point off between us, but we got there in very different ways.
     
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  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Carlos Zarate vs Lupe Pintor

    First time I have watched this controversial fight, and it is quite absorbing. Some good boxing by both men and shifts in tides and fortunes.

    I'll just put up my RBR notes and scorecard.

    1. Zarate is ring general with good jab
    2. Pintor some sharp left hand work - counters and leads
    3. Close round - Pintor forcing Zarate to adapt - sharp work by both
    4. Pintor aggressor - jab disrupting Zarate - Zarate looking to counter-punch and scores KD
    5. Zarate controlled range - long hard shots
    6. Both hard leads - Zarate more in control
    7. Pintor sharp jab - very close - Zarate nice movement
    8. Zarate sharper harder shots - combos - Pintor some good jabs
    9. Pintor pressuring with good left hand work
    10. Zarate boxed well - good movement and control - Zarate hurt late by left hand
    11. Good inside work by both - Zarate more fluid in defence
    12. Zarate a bit ragged - inaccurate - good exchanges - Pintor nice counters
    13. Zarate ring general with good jab, movement and feints
    14. Pintor hard counters - stunned Zarate
    15. Zarate good aggression - nice combo's

    Zarate: 1,4*,5,6,8,11,13,15
    Pintor: 2,3,7,9,10,12,14 KD'd 4
    Total: 143-142 Zarate (8-7)

    * = 10-9 round despite KD, I felt Pintor was winning round when he was dropped and did not deserve a 2 point round going against him.


    Overall, I would not say this fight is a stark robbery. Zarate may have deserved it but it was very close. Out of the two I was more impressed by Pintor's jab than anything Zarate produced.
     
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  5. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks for posting your cards, guys.........this is more or less what I expected; pretty close final tallies and lots of swing in how we scored the individual rounds. For that reason alone, it's an interesting topic.
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Sal, just to get some 'consensus'.

    1. Even (1-1-1)
    2. Pintor (3-0)
    3. Pintor (2-1)
    4. Zarate [10-8] (3-0)
    5. Zarate (3-0)
    6. Pintor (2-1)
    7. Zarate (2-1)
    8. Pintor (2-1)
    9. Pintor (2-1)
    10. Pintor (3-0)
    11. Zarate (3-0)
    12. Zarate (2-1)
    13. Zarate (2-1)
    14. Pintor (2-1)
    15. Pintor (2-1)

    On our combined scorecard the decision is - 143-142 Pintor (8-6-1)

    Although none of us had Pintor in front.

    So from what I gathered, rounds 1,3,6,7,8,9,12,13,14,15 are all the debatable ones that could have went either way.
     
  7. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh, nice, thanks. So.........a full two-thirds of the fight are up in the air. :lol:
     
  8. Flemo83

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