Do you think Frank Warren feels under pressure to move DeGale on quicker?

I was having a laugh with the dilks shout much like you are with the groves shout.

I like it on the computer desk

 

seen this all over facebook, whats it all about

 

The truth on all if this is this: is chunky more technically gifted? More than likely. Has he done anything that would worry smith or that smith couldn't cope with? No. Can degale dig out a result? Who knows at this stage? Can smith? Yes without doubt. And with regards to whoever said about smith giving any excuse under the sun to not fight degale on the YouTube clip. I have seen it, probably before you, and the reason, not excuse, was that smith at this stage has to be looking beyond competing at domestic level. Do younthink degale or groves would hang around if needs be? No I didn't think so, so why should smith take a pasting for wanting to move on?
We British boxing fans have become elitist arseholes who believe we are entitled to the best of the best every time someone enters the ring, as if we should expect to see a boxing version of the Harlem globetrotters every time we switch on. Things are not that way, and never will be. And if smith or any british fighter for that matter adhered to the attitude of most people on here that he must fight degale I.e. He should fight every decent up and comer, how many ****ing fighters would we get at euro/world level? Not many. So any one harbouring desires of smith fighting anyone on their way up needs to let it go, and let the guy go his own way and have a crack at world level whether you think he would win or lose. He has paid his dues and then some. Degale needs groves more.

 

Lmao, something to do with cancer awareness.

I like it hanging off the back of my swivel chair

 

You do realise Degale would be the favourite with the bookies if a fight with Groves or Smith was made. In the case of Degale vs Smith, Degale would be around the 1/2 mark. He'd probably be around 8/11 vs Groves. Do you think bookies like giving away money?

 

Smith would give us a decent gauge on Degale's abilities and what he's all about. It's one of those 'coming out party' fights.

 

Yeah Frank Warren is under pressure to move De Gale onto a world title and then watch De Gale leave as soon as he has the title.

I think Frank is going to take his time with De Gale and make money by having him fight tomato cans.

 

Livra I ain't interested in the bookies and odds. To be honest I ain't a betting man, so the odds don't mean much to me anyway. In terms of who they think is the favourite, well tell me how many times have u watched a fight on sky, and listened to the commentator say how the odds have swung in favour of the other guy? They don't always get it right and in fact it seems to me they can't even make up their ****ing minds most of the time!!

 

Smith can dig out a result... at domestic level. Do you really actually think he is world class or anywhere near world class?

Smith is fighting Paul David next ffs. If thats not going "down a level" then what is? Why not fight Degale next instead?

The fact is, you are in the extreme minority to say that Smith is anywhere near Degales level and I think, if pushed, you would actually pick Degale to win a fight between the two.

 

Livra I think you are missing the vital point that in terms of levels degale hasn't learnt enough to dig out a result and change midway through a fight and find a way to win. If you pushed me, without hesitation I would say smith to win. Degale hasn't shown me anything to suggest he is that special or could beat smith, so there:blurp

 

Well Degale has shown me that he can fight with different styles and gameplans by winning Olympic Gold. He has adopted different styles in different fights in the pros also. He seems like a very versatile fighter to me.

Where we differ is in our opinion of Smiths level relative to Degales. You probably think Smith could give a fight to Abraham/Ward/Froch etc. You think he would beat Degale. Sadly we won't find out as Smith doesn't fancy the job.

 

Livra, there is no problem in us having a difference of opinion. I still think degale gets a lot of the basics wrong. But hey I am a realist, and am quite happy to say smith would have a hard time against the elite, but he ain't no ducker, and would fight any of them at the drop if a hat, and go out fighting on his shield.
If the fight v degale was made, smigga would have no hesitation on fighting him, but as it is degale needs smith more. Smith don't need degale. A few months ago there was a fight v Magee in prospect, which is the level smigga is aiming for rather than fighting a relative novice

 

Just because he hasn't, doesn't mean he cant.

I think you also have to take into account, that a defensive fighter, can somewhat negate the need to have to suck it up if he does a good enough job of avoiding contact and is able to keep it a Boxing match where its just a case of matching your skills up against someone else's, although you might say, well De Gale has not proven he has a good D, not against better standard of opposition anyway, which is a valid point, however I just get the feeling, that the best Smith could hope for, is to mug De Gale, hold, maul him to the point where the judges give him credit for fighting that type of fight.

 

the thing is though, that should he need to do this in a fight, is it not best to have had a fight where your future in the game is not at stake to learn how to adapt, rather than having to do it in your first championship fight? This is coming way too early for degale.
Are you suggesting that degale should fight like dirrell? :hey

 

This is the weird Mayweather logic too. If he hasn’t done it, we need to assume he can’t until he shows us he can. I don’t see any other way of looking at that.

DeGale hasn’t faced anyone good enough for us to accurately measure him.