Benn, Collins, Watson, Eubank, Calzaghe...rank them definitively explaining why.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by vincepierce, Oct 11, 2010.

  1. vincepierce

    vincepierce Guest

    go for it.

    (Steve Collins FTW !!!)

    Collins P4 W4 D0 L0 Pts 12 (Pc 100%)
    Eubank P7 W3 D1 L3 Pts 9 (Pc 43%)
    Calzaghe P1 W1 D0 L0 Pts 3 (Pc 100%)
    Watson P3 W1 D0 L2 Pts 3 (Pc 33%)
    Benn P5 W0 D1 L4 Pts 0 (Pc 20%)
     
  2. leo_messi

    leo_messi Guest

    No. Done to death
     
  3. vincepierce

    vincepierce Guest

    newbie pass. my bad.
     
  4. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its caused temper tantrums and fur flying in its time.:D
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Calzaghe
    Benn
    Eubank
    Collins
    Watson
     
  6. vincepierce

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    they are so arguably close its ridiculous.

    ok lets say eubank beats watson.
    then we got benn v eubank...eubank.
    then theres the problem...collins and calzaghe beat eubank.

    can we really assume calzaghe and collins were better?
    how can we argue they were worse?

    would collins have beaten mcclennen?

    would calzaghe have beaten collins?

    it gets murky.

    i dont want to believe and i honestly dont think that collins and calzaghe > benn and eubank >> watson.

    it was a war between them and it took a lot out of these fighters.

    a good question is would roy jones have beaten all of them.

    some would say so but i doubt it.
     
  7. leo_messi

    leo_messi Guest

    uh oh , here we go......
     
  8. Flemo83

    Flemo83 Active Member Full Member

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    I reckon about the same, maybe swap watson and collins though
     
  9. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Jones would've beaten them all clearly. But yeah, there isn't a huge amount of difference between the brits and Collins.

    Calzaghe
    Eubank
    Benn
    Collins
    Watson

    Eubank and Benn are interchangeable though. I rank Collins lower because Benn was shot and he was rather fortunate to get the 1st verdict over Eubank. Apparently he was a deserving victor in the rematch though.
     
  10. vincepierce

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    collins beating both men does raise questions. also i dont think people should automatically give calzaghe that much credit. could he walk through all 4? he beat one out of peak.
     
  11. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Calzaghe fought all of the others at their best I'm pretty sure he'd pick up a defeat on the way. Probably Eubank or Benn.
     
  12. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Benn was past his prime, involved in too many wars.

    a prime Benn I think walks through everything Collins has.
     
  13. Primadonna Kool

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    Chris Eubank

    Nigel Benn

    Joe Calzaghe

    Steve Collins...
     
  14. ApatheticLeader

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    Calzaghe - Achieved the most out of everyone, and was probably the second most talented.

    Watson - Easily the most technically gifted out of the bunch, and probably the most talented overall IMO. Achieved less than everyone on the list, but fought in a brutal era where frankly none of the list would have survived. Outclassed Benn and was the better fighter in both fights against Eubank (particularly the second).

    Benn - overrated, especially at middleweight. Got lucky against McClellan - although his amazing heart had a lot to do with it tbf. I suppose his boxing skills, especially his defensive ability, were better than some give him credit for.

    Collins - underrated, feel major misgivings about not putting Collins above Benn

    Eubank - most overrated British fighter in history, period. Had far more bad performances than good. Couldn't cope with volume punchers, nor counterpunchers - needed a CLEAR stylistic advantage to look half-decent. Style over substance, big time. Was a better middleweight than he was a super-middle, unlike Benn where it was the other way round.
     
  15. vincepierce

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    collins is way under rated. wonder why that is?