Benn, Collins, Watson, Eubank, Calzaghe...rank them definitively explaining why.

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  1. leo_messi

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    cant figure it out myself.... :think:think
     
  2. UndisputedUK

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    Calazghe < Collins < Eubank < Benn < Watson.

    Calzaghe Undisputed Champion, beat Hopkins and Jones. The elite of the other fours era. Ring Champion at two weights, the best in the world.

    Collins had an excellent run after beating Eubank the first time. Dual WBO champion. Tough man and popular as "The Celtic Warrior". Durable champion who had a great workrate and stamina. He would try and overwhelm opponents.

    Eubank, Dual WBO champion and held a win and a draw against Benn. Excellent warrior, did just enough to win, but was truly great when he choose to fight hard. Was hated by many at the start, but loved towards the end. His desire to fight on against Calzaghe and Carl Thompson twice was truly brave and he gave his all in defeat. Defensive boxer who would usually try and do the bare minimum to win.

    Benn brought great entertainment to ring, Dual world Champion WBO middleweight and WBC 168lbs. Won the WBO title in the USA against Doug De Witt when it wasn't really recognised, but Benn and Eubank brought some credibility to the belt. Had a great rivalry with Eubank back in the early 1990's.Went to war and beat an awesome fighter in Gerald McClellan.
    Benn defied logic that night even if the end result was tragic. He was a vicious banger for most of his earlier career, but became more of a controlled boxer later on.

    It's a shame to put Watson last as he was a very talented fighter. The first to beat Benn and some say was very unlucky against Eubank in the first fight at middleweight. The tragic end to the second fight with Eubank marked the end of his career. He fought excellent fighters of his time and was unlucky to come up short against all of them for one reason or another. He survived a very bad injury at the time, unlucky and probably one of the best fighters not to win a world title. However, he was fortunate to survive and recover form his tragic injuries. He was seen as a good guy boxer at the time.

    Excellent talent around the glittering 168lbs division back then.
     
  3. vincepierce

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    greater > lesser. sorry. just saying. great post tho. cheers.
     
  4. JonOli

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    Not this old chestnut, someone no doubt will be along shortly going ape saying Collins isn't British and shouldn't be lumped in with this lot and it's an insult to Ireland to do so. : )
     
  5. vincepierce

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    he was local, he was great and he fought them. he felt more local than calzaghe to be honest. theres more irish in london than there is welsh in cardiff mate.
     
  6. avidlemon

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    Whoever said been was lucky against mclellan is being a bit unfair. He survived a barrage early doors. But to stop such a beast and such a concussive puncher is hardly luck. Think on you toby
     
  7. JonOli

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    With the exception of the win over Benn, the draw (which many saw as a win to Benn) and the Watson fights, Eubank's resume is pretty dubious. He has some 'gift' victories on there too.

    I'd have Benn over Eubank, he beat better competition and sometimes away from home.
     
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    No, it was lucky. And scrappy, and there was an enormous headbutt which no-one ever talks about in one of the middel rounds which I partially blame for McClellan's injury. McClellan would have beaten that version of Benn around 8 times out of 10, although Benn was on the decline before that fight. McClellan was very overrated himself.
     
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    Hey, I'm just saying what's happened in the past with this question.
     
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    I'm sorry, pretty dubious?
     
  11. JonOli

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    What's your point, you think it's worse than that?

    I bet you can roll off all those 'dodgy' decisions.;)
     
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    Yes I do, and yes I can :lol:

    I'll save doing that until the possible expansion of this thread.
     
  13. UndisputedUK

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    Henry Wharton certainly wasn't one of them!
     
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    Agreed.
     
  15. avidlemon

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    No it wasn't. And by the way I am just the person who will engage in a childish tit for tat row. The things you mention in the fight happen all the ****ing time. Benn took counts when he needed to in that fight. He won. Most of the time that doesn't involve luck, and it didn't when benn won.

    No it wasn't, no it wasn't, no it wasnt