Everybody is pissed at Dirrel, but where is the outrage over Kessler?

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  1. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not the biggest fan of Dirrel, but at least he doesn't have a history of ducking opponents for no reason, unlike Kessler....

    So why is everyone disgusted at him, when Kessler who has double vision, but is somehow driving, is also "injured."

    And if you want evidence that Kessler DUCKED someone, here it IS:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3312534

    Updated: March 26, 2008, 2:40 AM ET
    Kessler withdraws from super middleweight fight with Miranda


    By Dan Rafael
    ESPN.com
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    A May 24 super middleweight showdown between former unified titleholder Mikkel Kessler and brash puncher Edison Miranda imploded Tuesday when Kessler withdrew from the fight.
    Miranda promoter Leon Margules of Seminole Warriors Boxing and promoter Lou DiBella, who brokered the deal on behalf of Kessler's Danish promoter Mogens Palle, both were at a loss to explain why Kessler pulled out of a fight that Showtime had already announced on its Web site.

    The sides agreed to a deal March 14 and were finalizing the paperwork when, according to Margules, Kessler agent Michael Marley informed Showtime on Tuesday that the fight was off.

    "I have no idea why he pulled out. He must be afraid to fight Miranda," Margules told ESPN.com. "We gave them everything they asked for. Showtime gave them everything they asked for."

    Margules said Showtime, which agreed to pay $1 million for the fight and beat HBO's offer, wanted the fight so badly that it even agreed to change the date of its "Showtime Championship Boxing" telecast from May 10 to May 24 to accommodate Kessler, who felt he needed additional time to train.

    "The Kessler people haven't given me an explanation," Margules said. "They're acting like we're [messing] with them. I'm outraged. If their explanation is that we didn't meet their deal points, I have their points in writing. Everything was in the contract that they asked for. They wanted it to be a 10-round fight. We gave them that because they wouldn't even discuss a 12-rounder. They insisted on all sorts of things and we gave them everything."

    Among other concessions given to Kessler: The bout would not take place on Native American property or in Florida. Seminole Warriors Boxing is a Native American-operated promotional company based in Hollywood, Fla.

    Also, Kessler was to be paid 400,000 Euros (approximately $600,000 U.S.) and Palle would retain lucrative television rights in Scandinavia, Germany and other territories.

    "They took the fight and then they backed out," Margules said. "We had a deal in writing, and although it was not signed yet, we all said, 'We have a deal.' Showtime even had the fight on its Web site. Everything was worked out and my fighter was in camp. And then, no fight."

    Margules said Marley didn't even bother to call him and that he found out from Showtime that the fight was off.

    DiBella was also disgusted with Kessler and his team.

    "I was dealing with Mogens Palle and Mike Marley. I should have expected no less," DiBella said. "I found this fight for Kessler at the request of Mogens and I spent a lot of time working on it. We sent them a contract reflecting everything they asked for. But then Mike wouldn't take my calls for a week and Mogens has been ill. No one ever came back with comments on the contract and then Mike called [Showtime's] Ken Hershman directly and blamed me, saying the contract didn't reflect the deal. Then Ken asked him why they never came back with comments on the contract and Mike changed his tune and said that Kessler had some other opportunity for a world title fight. Which is it?

    "The way in which this was handled is preposterous. If they didn't want the fight, just say so. I made an unbelievable deal for the Kessler side but they are too stupid to see it."

    Marley didn't return a telephone message or e-mail from ESPN.com seeking comment.



    Miranda, who is 2-0 since moving up to super middleweight in the wake of his May 2007 middleweight title elimination loss to Kelly Pavlik, who would go on to win the title, wasn't all that surprised that Kessler withdrew.
    The trash-talking Miranda had goaded Kessler into the accepting the fight in the first place.

    "I didn't get my hopes up because I know Kessler is afraid of me," Miranda said. "We gave him everything he wanted to make this fight and he still wouldn't take it. In fact, the only thing we didn't give him is the opportunity to tie my hands around my back while we fought. But at this point I'm willing to even give him that because I know if I yelled 'boo' at him in the ring he'd turn and run. I said it before and I'll say it again -- he should be ashamed to call himself a 'Viking Warrior.'"

    Kessler (39-1, 29 KOs), of Denmark, hasn't fought since losing his two belts via lopsided decision to Joe Calzaghe in a Nov. 3 unification fight.

    Miranda (30-2, 26 KOs), of Colombia, is one of the biggest punchers in the 168-pound division. Both of his losses came at middleweight, a controversial decision in Germany to Arthur Abraham in a 2006 title bout and the loss to Pavlik.

    Showtime has not decided what it will do about its May card.

    Dan Rafael is ESPN.com's boxing writer.
     
  2. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I mean I get it that both Ward and Froch whupped that ass, but still...
     
  3. Arran

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    yeah Kessler fought Calzaghe but ducked Miranda.


    People arnt hating on Kessler as the evidence is their during the ward fight, he then wins the belt off froch and retires....where as dirrell....runs all fight and fakes, hes proved himself to be a *****, Kessler has proved to be a warrior
     
  4. UndisputedChamp

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    People are just pissed off at Dirrell because they think he was acting when Abraham hit him the illegal shot. Just a bunch of internet tough guys who have never taken a real punch, no need to pay attention to them.
     
  5. Arran

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    in all my life ive never seen a boxer ko'd and grab his face on the way down, grabbing your face is a conscious desicion, a ko means your are not conscious, so why did dirrell go down holding his face?
     
  6. HENDO

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    I understand he allegedly "won" against Froch despite getting his ass whupped, but you have no evidence that Dirrel faked anything.

    And clearly you didn't read the article.

    Miranda is a tough match up for a fighter with Kessler's style. Miranda has a huge reach advanatage, and Kessler needs room to operate and is a sucker for right hands.

    He may have won, but he would have retired with alleged "eye damage" much earlier in his career.
     
  7. Arran

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    no evidence dirrell faked it? i provided it, grabbing your face is a conscious desicion, people who have just been sparked do not grab their face, show me another boxer to do it? that proves he was conscious after the punch

    the damage was during the fight with ward from headbutts
     
  8. UndisputedChamp

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  10. elgu17

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    At least there is some validity to Kesslers claim of having eye problems. Both in the Ward and the Froch fights you could see the condition to which Kesslers eye has deteriorated. Dirrell just pulled out like a ***** so he wouldn't have to fight his bff.

    Seriously if Direll was having these neurological issues he would have said so when Showtime sent them the letters threatening to sue...but at that time he probably still hadn't made up that excuse.
     
  11. UndisputedChamp

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    It was ruled as a KO.
     
  12. TommyV

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    Why would Kessler drop out of the tournament when he was going to progress, only had Allan Green to fight, and give up his belt because of that?
     
  13. Starched Him

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    anytime you dont get up by count of 10 its ruled a ko but that dosent mean mike was knocked out. Hatton was knocked out, Mike Quite on his back.
     
  14. Atritionist

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    People are giving Dirrell crap by the way he "acted" in that DQ against Abraham. Where Kessler fought through the head butting, I mean Kessler could of did what Cambell did after Bradley head butted him and said " I can't see..." now what I mean?

    Yeah the way he went down does look suspect. I mean if he would of went flat on his face after the punch instead of looking at the ref then grabbing his face, I doubt we would get all this "he's fakin' it" talk.

    I don't know, I don't want to think that all these neurological problems he's dealing with is fake. But I do hope he is able to return at 100%, as I do for Kessler as well.
     
  15. Interceptor

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    You talk as if Calzhage is a beast.

    Kessler ducked the **** outta' Miranda.:deal