Benn, Collins, Watson, Eubank, Calzaghe...rank them definitively explaining why.

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  1. vincepierce

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    im glad your british and not american saying that. really mate. i dont think lucky is the right word.
     
  2. vincepierce

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    lol at ''possible''. i had no idea what id started but i think im gonna sit back and watch the car crash from here on in
     
  3. ApatheticLeader

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    Usually so am I, but this time I'm going to let it go. :lol:

    And I'm going to change my order: Calzaghe > Watson > Collins > Benn > Eubank.
     
  4. avidlemon

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    You *******, damn you!!!!! Rise to it rise to it. What are you, yellow or something?
     
  5. ApatheticLeader

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    No, but I like Benn and a part of me likes to believe that he is simply a better fighter than McClellan, even if it's as true as Eubank being a genuine ATG.
     
  6. vincepierce

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    Steve Collins FTW !!!

    Collins P4 W4 D0 L0 Pts 12 (Pc 100%)
    Eubank P7 W3 D1 L3 Pts 9 (Pc 43%)
    Calzaghe P1 W1 D0 L0 Pts 3 (Pc 100%)
    Watson P3 W1 D0 L2 Pts 3 (Pc 33%)
    Benn P5 W0 D1 L4 Pts 0 (Pc 20%)
     
  7. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Eubank
    Watson, Calzaghe
    Benn
    Collins


    Eubank showed great skill against Benn (1), Watson (1) and Rocchigiani. Also the likes of Thornton and Wharton really went for it and were KO punchers...only able to land the occasional short shot every few rounds. Also has the best record -Benn, Watson x 2, Rocchigiani, Thornton. Malinga-future world champ, Holmes-former world champ. Watson and Thornton only lost to the lb4lb best fighters. And by far the biggest star of the five.


    For me, Watson's performance against animal Benn was more impressive than Calzaghe's against musclebound Lacy. He also gave a peak Mike McCallum his best workout after 11 months out of the ring. And his performance against Eubank in their rematch was out of this world, career tragically cut short. But then Calzaghe had great longevity, was sharp after long spells out of the ring, showed no fear against Eubank and dealt with good fighters like Brewer and Kessler; a master in Hopkins.


    Benn had terrific wins against Americans -DeWitt, Barkley, McClellan, Sims. Taking out some of the toughest nuts to crack in the most exciting style. But wasn't in the league of Watson or Eubank in terms of boxing ability. Super power-puncher. Good WBC run but never dealt with a master like Hopkins like Calzaghe did.


    Collins was tough and awkward, the body shots he took against McCallum and head shots he took against Benn - man. Reggie Johnson at his sharpest hit him with everything and couldn't get him over. But for me he lost clearly against Eubank in their 1st fight, not really landing any clean punches and having to take many clean counters. Benn was shot to pieces after the war with monster McClellan.
     
  8. avidlemon

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    But he IS!! Eubanks is a future hof'er!!

    Benn WAS better on the night!!!

    *******!:good
     
  9. ApatheticLeader

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    Oh HELL no!!!

    Eubank was poor, really ****ing poor. Have you forgotten the debacles against Ray Close? Or Dan Sherry? Or Mauricio Costa (ffs), Or ESPECIALLY Dan Schommer, who Eubank himself admits he lost to.

    Let's not forget the fact that Watson was outclassing him second time around for most of the fight until Eubank caught him, and the fact Watson fully deserved the decision in the first fight. What about the fact that Benn deserved the decision in the second fight?

    Eubank was USELESS against volume punchers and counterpunchers and could only excel against fighters that attempt to impose their strength upon him. You know, as long as they don't throw too many punches. How can a fighter that was so pathetic fighting off the front foot be the best of the quintet?

    And no-one dare say that Eubank was shot by the time he lost to Collins - he WASN'T. He had just come off one of the best performances of his career against Wharton (Eubank's opinion!) and the fight was just 3 months later. Let's not forget that ALL of Eubanks better wins were against fighters made for him, and even a style advantage is no guarantee of a decent performance (Benn II, Collins II, Malinga).

    As for Malinga, any indication that he had improved from his fights against Lindell Holmes and John Jarvis, who both beat Malinga far more convincingly than Eubank did, despite the fact that Eubank really, really should have done a better job based on Malinga's style.

    Eubank at the top? No, no NO!
     
  10. bigG

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    benns victorys over mclelland and iran barkley are better than any of the other fighters victorys.....except watsons and eubanks over prime, feral benn....god its difficult.....i think absolute prime for prime, benn beats colins AND calzaghe, whos resume will always be tainted by the fact the rjj win and the debateable win over hopkins came agaisnt fighters well past their prime...colins beat a shot benn...i think on achievement benn is the best, but im biased, he is my all ti me favourite fighter...
     
  11. DOM5153

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    Calzaghe
    Eubank
    Benn
    Watson
    Collins

    The bottom four interchange day by day in my head, not much in it at all.
     
  12. vincepierce

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    all due respect bud, how the **** are you gonna put Collins bottom when he double ****ed Benn and Eubank.

    do you rank the heavyweights
    1 Foreman 2 Frazier 3 Norton 4 Cooper 5 Ali ??????

    give me one more example in the WHOLE of boxing history where a guy who beats two fighters TWICE gets placed below them. why even fight if thats how you feel. why not just hype them up and vote for a winner. simon cowell can do the HOF inductions.
     
  13. ApatheticLeader

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    I don't rate either victory that highly, mainly because the Barkley fight so easily could have gone the other way and the McClellan win was lucky. If McClellan wasn't suffering from a brain injury that could have been there before the fight, he'd have beaten Benn. Easily. That and McClellan was overrated anyway.

    And ffs, middleweight Benn was NOT prime Benn.

    Besides, Herol Graham's win over Ayub Kabule was better anyway.
     
  14. vincepierce

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    really and truly eubank watson and benn fought each other in their primes (altho the argument can be made that watson never reached his). then came collins then came calzaghe. its a shame rjj never fought them as im sure one of them would have beaten him. its a shame calzaghe never fought collins either.
     
  15. Right Hook

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    Collins/Calzaghe
    Eubank
    Benn
    Watson