Everybody is pissed at Dirrel, but where is the outrage over Kessler?

Because a count out is ruled as a KO whether or not the said fighter is actually knocked out.

Dirrell grabbed his face, now he claims he is damaged from the punch. He's a *****. Indefensible.

 

I never said he was actually knocked out, I just stated that it was ruled as a KO. Am I wrong?

 

Moronic thread Kessler's injury is legit no way on earth is he scared of alan green.

 

I think it has a lot to do with how both men fought whilst in the competition..

 

The only one due for a beating was B- level Green. I won't bother debating with you on the subject, seeing as it won't be a debate. You will not listen to any relevant points because you've already made your own mind up.

 

He has an eye injury it means if he fights again there's a chance it could make him blind permanently what part of that don't you understand.
It's what can happen to his sight if it takes any more damage.

 

i felt the same way wen roid hit griffin, was like he faking he aint get hit that hard, you can see drops of blood on the canvas from his nose tho lol

 

Since D'amato died, Tyson lost a lot of heart in fights when in danger... I'm not saying he shouldn't quit when he took enough damage, but still when he had enough, he stayed down...

 

Calzaghe was an undefeated champion that just mopped the floor with a dangerous KO artist in Jeff Lacy. Miranda had just been knocked out by Kelly Pavlik. Calzaghe sounds like the more dangerous opponent.

 

The vast majority of people hating on Andre Dirrell are Brits. Because they hate the fact that two inexperienced American fighters made their so-called Euro stars look so average.


The other percentage are just racists who are pissed 2 black fighters made these so called white stars look so average.

 

yeah im hating on dirrell because he 'beat a brit' in your eyes and hes black.....yet i travelled 200 miles to see Mayweather when he came to the UK just to punch a bag at peacocks gym in london?

great logic danny

 

There is difference between driving a car and stepping into the ring with a professional boxer. Dirrell has let everybody down. This article sums it up for me:

The Super Six has been plunged into farce by Andre Dirrell (19-1, 13 KOs) crying injury in the build up to his scheduled bout with Andre Ward (22-0, 13 KOs) on 27th November. Already blighted by withdrawals from Jermain Taylor (28-4-1, 17kOs) and Mikkel Kessler (43-2, 32 KOs), this latest revelation could finally sound the death knell on the credibility of the entire tournament and raise a number of uncomfortable questions for the fighter from Flint, Michigan. Throughout the Super Six, Dirrell has courted controversy and criticism in equal measure, but to date most pundits have been prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, but now Dirrell has to accept his reputation is in tatters.

Leon Lawson Sr, Dirrell’s grandfather and trainer, has stated that the injury is from his illegal knockout by Arthur Abraham (31-1, 25 KOs). Apparently a neurologist has advised Dirrell to rest. Speaking to the Flint journal, Lawson Sr said: "It still bothers him and there are times when he just hasn't been himself. He'll get headaches. A neurologist told us that he needs to take some time off."

Does anybody buy this? Why did he not undergo a battery of tests, including neurological, before announcing the fight? Have these symptoms only now manifested as the date looms? It is a huge taboo to suggest an athlete may be faking an injury but it was patently obvious that these two fighters had no intention of getting it on – they had previously postponed the last date without selling tickets, declaring a venue or undertaking any form of promotion. Showtime actually had to threaten to sue both parties before they settled on another date and now Dirrell is injured? This is far too convenient for fans and journalist not to legitimately have the right to question whether the injury is genuine. Personally, I have grave doubts, not least because of Dirrell’s previous form in this tournament.

Going into the Super Six I didn’t know much about him and was surprised he had been selected by Showtime. I expected Carl Froch to murder him in the opening fight him but events unfolded very differently and it was both surprising and appalling. Dirrell seemed to have it all... speed, movement, footwork, and a decent shot – he even managed to wobble Froch at one point – but this was all massively overshadowed by his spoiling tactics and complete absence of conviction. He was continually running, clinching, bending-over, turning his back and complaining to the referee. It smacked of a lack of heart and despite the fight being there for the taking, he seemed unable, or unwilling, to seize the initiative and tear the belt from the champ. The judges weren’t buying it and neither was I – he lost out on a split decision.

After postponing his next bout against Abraham due to a back injury he picked up in training, the location was changed from Rancho Mirage, California to Detroit in his home state of Michigan. The fight itself was not the stinker many had feared after the Froch debacle. His negative spoiling tactics were still evident but Dirrell looked gamer, letting his hands go more often as he built up a commanding points lead. Indeed, he even managed to knock Abraham down to the canvas for the first time in his career while the Armenian was off-balance. Finally, he was looking the real deal but it would not last. As the fight unfolded into the finals rounds Abraham shrugged off his typical slow start and went head-hunting. Dirrell reverted to type, running and attempting to spoil the fight. A minute into the 11th, he was neigh-on sprinting from Abraham when a glancing blow and some water in the corner caused him to slip to his knees. Abraham impudently followed up with a seemingly light uppercut while he was still down. There was a noticeable pause of some seconds before Dirrell rolled to his back and began dramatically twitching in a prone position.

Several factors led people to question whether it was a genuine knockout. Firstly, Abraham was ratcheting up the pressure and was looking for that big knockout-punch while it seemed Dirrell was beginning to struggle, there was also the opinion that he previously displayed a lack of heart and conviction against Froch, but perhaps foremost to the smoking-gun crowd was the fact that Dirrell won the fight after being deemed unfit to continue due to a foul – it sure beat having that Armenian powerhouse trying to take his head clean-off his shoulders for another five minutes.

Personally, I was not prepared to go along with that viewpoint, I simply attributed the knock-out to low punch-resistance – and I still do - but Dirrell is not doing himself or his legacy any favours with this fresh controversy.

So where do we go from here?

The best course of action for the Super Six would be to arrange a tune-up for Ward, while Froch and Abraham settle who has the right to face him in the final. Of course this will not happen, Showtime and the promoters will attempt to ring every last penny from this moribund tournament by replacing the latest drop-out with more sub-par fodder ala Glen Johnson (50-14-2, KOs 34).

As for Dirrell, I hope that Showtime commissions an independent neurologist to examine his injury and if he is given a clean bill of health, I hope they sue him for every penny he’s got. I have never publicly considered that an athlete may have faked an injury - and I hope I never do again - but this whole episode stinks to high-heaven. There is something truly rotten in the state of Michigan and it is a microcosm of everything that is wrong with boxing. Whether Dirrell can restore his reputation is open to debate but right now his stock could not be lower.

 

Comparing Dirrell to Kessler, is just stupid.