Everybody is pissed at Dirrel, but where is the outrage over Kessler?

Because they're idiots. There are several posters who are only pro-white, pro-black or anything else, but it's not an argument any time anyone says anything against your particular race. In most cases, those crying racism are the ones who are always pro-white/black/whatever.

 

I agree, thought Kessler was full of **** and am very skeptical I Thought Green would probably kick his ass, no way he was surviving this tourney the Danish Pastry was exposed big time and quit while any further damage to his career was done. I expect him to continue fighting the **** opposition he was fighting pre tourney and dont see why he gets a bye for the same **** he pulled as Dirrell, two bull**** injuries as far as Im concerned.

 

1. WTF has Green ever done to suggest he beats Kessler or even beats him up?
2. Who the **** has Kessler lost to that suggests he would lose to Green?
3. How can someone be exposed if they have been beaten by what some people describe as the 'Next big Thing' and who's only previous defeat has come against the greatest Super Middle weight ever?
4. Why would Kessler pull out after handing Froch his 1st defeat, winning back his old WBC belt whilst trying to regain his past form with a new trainer? Things were looking up for Kessler, he would not just suddenly pull out if the injury was not legitimate

 

Thing is, That green was made a reluctant puncher because of the SPEED of ward. It happens to everyone who fights a skillful, aggressive speedy fighter with good defense. Gettin hit by shots you don't see while not landing anything does that. People just don't swing and when they do, they don't swing with conviction.

That will not be the case if green and kessler were to fight. It would be a much different allen green. I felt kessler would KO him late but receive a decent amount of damage in the process.

As for Kessler and Dirrell pulling out with injuries. Kessler never said anything until his camp was close to starting. He had been on fightcamp 360 and never said anything about it. Dirrell did essentially the same thing and but had some news coming out that him and ward didn't want to fight.

Thing is that there is no way to prove either of the injuries. Also, injuries are not what you want to mention until you are sure you are going to pull out. If not then it is stupid to give a mental edge to your opponent.

They both could be Full of BS or they both could be telling the truth. In Dirrell's case Time will tell. In Kesslers case, Time will tell only if he continues fighting after 9 months.

As far as people talking about the personalities of the 2. Just stop the BS. Fighters near the top are nothing more than commercial products infront of the camera for the most part. Thier perspective is different from ours and different things way on thier business decisions.

 

Clearly, if you're not planning to act stupid as usual Sherlock Holmes, this is referred to a career he once had IN THE SPORT.

 

This is genuinly a good post, the difference in Kessler's boxing is there to be seen after he had the long time out after the Calzaghe bout, his decline imo has had very little to do with the previously mentioned bout but has had more to do with the wear and tear he has endured through his career, Ward however has succeeded in shortening a fellow fighters career without the use of his fists, which imo is appalling especially as the headbutts were not needed in a fight he was winning comfortably. In the Froch fight he looks pretty faded, although credit to Froch for making him look bad as well.

i'm pissed that Kessler's injury is being mixed in with a guy like Dirrell's, imo Ward vs Dirrell was never going to happen injury or no injury, i also find myself questioning the legitimacy of him being KO'd by Abraham, the only reason im not convinced he faked is that Abraham after all is a huge puncher.

 

Agreed for the most part. The long layoffs and age is what I feel had more to do with kessler losing his sharpness. He just was not as sharp as I've seen him in the ward and froch fights. Ward IMO was a stylistic nightmare for kessler. Hear's an old post of mine on Wards headbutting. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=249392&highlight=Ward&page=7

As far as Dirrell and AA nobody will ever know about dirrell acting. I'm not convinced either way. I was hoping he was acting because that would mean he is OK. I questioned the KO somewhat but in the end, Time will tell. It was just too bizarre of a scene overall.

 

damn, the "race" "nationalist" card keeps getting pulled up by the same damn posters all the time, its annoying and uncalled for. Just because these guys dont have a good argument.

Yes I think dirrel is faking, not because his fight against AA, simply because his fight against ward never seemed to get any closer in getting the contract done.

I don´t think kessler is faking, yes he had proven very rusty and no where near his younger self, but he came back after a big loss, and I cant see why he should fear green, the green ward fight looked **** green basicly kept moving backwards and never wanted to fight. dont see how that would be any different vs kessler.
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This so called profe that kessler fakes, simply because he can drive a car is utterly stupid, this is his health we talk about, and its far more likely to get worse by being hit rather than driving.

But +1 for your troll power

 

Does it even matter? Those outraged over Dirrell are idiots to begin with...so what are you asking? Why aren't the idiots outraged over Kessler? WHo cares what idiots think...

 

I agree that when those two styles mix it can lead to accidental butting, but for me it was quite cynical and Ward was allowed to get away with it due to the weak ref and the fact he was the home fighter, even if a fighter was not headbutting on purpose there comes a point when the ref must put his foot down and take points away or even DQ the offending fighter due to the damage hes causing, i have not watched Ward vs Kessler for months now, its bad enough watching your favourate fighter getting taken apart, it feels insulting when he's on the recieving end of dubious tactics. Was the headbutts on purpose?? maybe, maybe not, but i do feel pissed off for Kessler that the appropriate action was not taken to stop it.:good

 

Agreed and that's where the blame starts. The ref could have made it hard for ward to use that style. Might have made it a different fight but I feel kess would have still would have lost. Had the ref started early then it could have been somewhat competitive. It's just a hard one for a ref to do when it's hard to tell if it's intentional, especially when a punch starts the combination.

Good post and Good discussion :good. See ya around.

 

He would have ran Miranda all over the place, and Calzaghe and Kessler were the super-middle champs, so why duck Miranda to have a super-fight with a better fighter/ champion?

 

You're good article regardless of whatever people say