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  1. Wilox

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    Why do you hate Haye so much? He's a better boxer than Audley and has achieved far more in the sport.
     
  2. Farmboxer

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    Audley could knock Haye out, we will find out. Looks like Audley is winner the diarrhea of the mouth competition though.
     
  3. Wilox

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    Of course Audlsey could knock Haye out. I don't think anyone would disagree with that. However, Haye knocking Audley out or at least winning the fight convincingly is a far more likely outcome.
     
  4. Primadonna Kool

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    I don't hate David Haye, David Haye reminds me of myself. And in general life, i don't get on with people that are alike me.

    David Haye is my fourth most liked British fighter, just behind Carl Froch. I like David Haye's sense of humour, and i generally like how he fights........but I'm a realist, i know boxing and i know David Haye.

    I know what he is, and i know what he's going to do on November 13th.

    The Bit i have highlighted "In your post" is a very shallow way of looking at things. Ricky Hatton has a more passionate fanbase than Floyd Mayweather but who is the better boxer....? ok lets move on from that point.

    I respect and look upto Audley Harrison as a man. He was Olympic Champion, when boxing was still a culture, when boxing was still big. He was the last boxing Olympic Champion that mattered. Who won the last Olympic Heavyweight title..? i don't even know, and i'm a boxing fan. Look a James Degale, he's abit of a No Mark, and he's Olympic Champion. I respect what Audley Harrison stands for and fights for, he's always telling people to be positive in life and never to lose their optimism. And i honestly don't think David Haye in his best form vs Audley Harrison in his best form, is a miss-match, i think Audley Harrison is th better fighter. Audley Harrison took up boxing late, and has proved the critics wrong throughout his career eventually.

    You heard the interview, Frank Warren himself. Laughed at a 27 year old Audley Harrsion, when he said he would not accept Frank Warrens offer to turn pro for £100,000.........and he would become Olympic Champion. It took a better part of a decade for Audley Harrison to become Olympic Champion.....


    I like David Haye, and i stated afew weeks before this fight was made. That i didn't want the fight to happened, because i was starting to like David Haye.....i even had a David Haye avatar.

    I didn't want this fight to happen, because i know a 39 year old Audley Harrison, is going to spark David Haye out.

    And this fight my friend, is going to dramatically affect David Hayes life...... i think he will slip into deep depression in the aftermath of the fight, it's a dangerous fight. I hope David Haye has a good family and Bird around him because depression can do bad things to a man like David Haye, this fight could ethier make him or break him.

    He won't retire at 30, thats for sure.


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KrR8Mxu_cc[/ame]


    Just look how calm, Audley Harrison is compared to David Haye. David Haye was not this gabby vs Ruiz, Barrett, Big Mac, Valuev......

    Audley Harrison is calm as ****, and is not intimidated or doubting himself at all.

    I see doubts in David Haye, i see a man trying to convince himself.
     
  5. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    Harrison chats so much crap its unreal. Why does he continue to bang on about the olympics from 10 years ago. Who gives a damn? The guy is a joke who like many olympic champions failed to achieve much in the pro ranks.
     
  6. Jack Dempsey

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    Just got round to listening to this now, what an absolute load of **** Audley is talking, seriously the guy is so full of himself
     
  7. gooners!!

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    I dont think thats a positive personally.

    I would much rather Harrison take offense to Haye's criticisms, use it to motivate himself and fight a great fight because he feels disgruntled, like how McDermott, a guy with a degree of ability, but a guy who has confidence issues, went from a timid guy, to a guy who seemed inspired by the derogatory things Tyson Fury said about him, and managed to get an extra 10% out of his performance, an extra 10% that he ordinarily might not of got.


    I remember watching the previews to Valuev-Haye and thinking to myself, how disrespectful is Haye being ? but look at how relaxed and calm Valuev is, now that just told me Haye was dealing with a man with absolutely no passion what so ever, and that was backed up by the way he fought, or had fought in previous fights, he has no stomach, of coarse its one thing staying in control of your emotions, not letting the opponent get inside you head, its another to let everything go in one ear out the other and not constructively use those criticisms to fuel your fire to put on a greater performance.


    Its these type of scenario's, and Audley slightly deluding himself instead of taking the criticisms on board, using it to improve certain aspects of his game that are being criticized, that has me thinking we WONT see the Audley we want to see, the one who comes out possessed and fights like a man on a machine, in a way he has never fought before, infact from the mental vibes im getting, the same old Harrison is coming into the ring.

    The only reason I write stuff like this, is because I want!! to believe, I want to believe Harrison will be that fighter your speaking of, I would just like convincing, thats why I bring up these criticisms, see if they can be dispelled, see if they hold any validity :thumbsup
     
  8. ero-sennin

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    ^

    I will dispell the first one for you. Sometimes, what you see on the outide is not what's going on within. I believe that when you talk **** to someone, you give them power, you give them the moral high ground, you give them a reason to beat your ass. Yopu can talk ****, but when it get's personal, that's when you give away your power.

    If you're the person who recieves this power, you have to control it. Meditation is the way to control yourself. Controlled power is very, very, very powerful. You CAN be angry, but you have to control it. You can't loose it. When you'e in training, tired as hell, and you remember someone saying something bad about you, it can give you a boost of energy. It's a goal, something to work towards. Sometimes people are calm because they are saving that mental energy, which is so powerful. There's a fire burning inside, a raging inferno of energy. When you lose control of your anger that energy is released, and you've wasted it. Save it for the fight. That's what I believe anyway. It may have taken him a lot longer than he wanted, but finally Audley has his chance. Remember he was a late starter and only needed one shot at the Olympics to win Gold.

    That calmness that PK is talking about is hard to detect sometimes. Is it calmness/peace or is it a man without passion, who is dead inside? When you have the former, you can walk into a club, and girls will be drawn to you. You don't need alcohol, or music, or anything else, cuz your on a natural high. It's not like excitement, it's much more tranquil. You feel so much stronger, it's like chaos is going on around, you, like you're in the midle of a tornado, but you can take it, and enjoy it. In fact, I won't be surprised if Audley Harrison does yoga (BTW this would be a funny photoshop for those of you who like to clown him).

    Sometimes Passion is difficult to see on the outside, but no one knows what's going on in Audley Harrison's mind. I have doubts about Audley too, but I said before, that even though my head says Haye will win, my heart says Audley. The closer this fight becomes, the more I'm believing in Audley. I don't know why. I might even put some money on Audley.
     
  9. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Derek Chisora and Martin Rogan are both backing Audley.
     
  10. bratwurzt

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    David Haye does deserve a beating for his antics - but not by this clown.
     
  11. bratwurzt

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    Wasn't that Wlad after Cory Sanders?
     
  12. gooners!!

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    Agree. My only concern with that, is that some guys, like Valuev, seem unflappable, I mean it seems you could insult his wife and you still might not get inside his head, its as though he does not have the capability to use those criticisms effectively and channel it into motivating himself, which as I say, is reflected in the way he fights, which is with no passion, now I just hope Audley does not fall into that category, I mean its not like he has not talked the talk before and failed to turn up, although you might say, well no one has ever insulted him the way Haye has.




    I mean I agree wholeheartedly with what your saying, I guess its just the bolded that concerns me, he has had previous opportunities to step up his game.


    I'd agree in other sports, like in football, I mean in football you can run around for 90 mins and not be particularly effective, yet another player can cover far less ground and effect the game a lot more, however I think that is a little different to Boxing, to me Boxing is about application, application that you can visibly see for the most part.

    I hope im wrong, I hope we see a bit of Duran from the first Leonard fight in Audley's performance.
     
  13. TheUzi

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    Seriously?? You got a link for that ero?
     
  14. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    wrong link..[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3uC9KnS870"][/ame]
     
  15. TheUzi

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    Be interesting to read what they actually said and if they broke the fight down at all.

    Especially Rogan, being as he's beaten Aud.