My last fight (1st senior fight)

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  1. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This guy was a lion to the other previous guy's lamb.

    Here's what he's thinking and doing...

    * He believes that he is stronger than you are so he is imposing his physical strength on you.

    * He believes that he hits harder than you. So he's taking risks to land shots.

    * He believes that you can't hurt him. That's why he's taking those risks. Notice how he gave you his ribs to hit as you pleased.

    And his skills are nothing to sneeze it either. So, you are faced with an opponent who is probably your equal in terms of skill level, who is stronger than you, hits hard enough to hurt you, and who doesn't believe that you can hurt him.

    The bad news is that he is probably right in all of these assumptions.

    The good news is ...BETTY GRABLE
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    Use those GAMS of yours. If Grable makes you feel like a sissy, go watch Robinson-LaMotta VI. Watch his legs. Fahget about Chavez-Taylor.

    Step and pivot around this guy and watch out for those hooks. Be on the perimeter where you are neither too close to get nailed nor too far to come up short with your own shots.

    If you are going to win this, you must establish the jab. It should perform several functions. Your jab must be variable, difficult to time, hard enough to sting him and make him think twice, and from the correct distance. Do you know what a long jab is? Don't jab inside the perimeter -do it on the perimeter where you land it and then short step over to make him miss the counter.

    The fastest way from point A to point B is a straight line. Consider these combinations: 1, 1, pause, 1, 2, 1.... 1, 1, hard 2 then weave under and out ... 1, 2, 1, 1 and if he steps in you fall back at a rightward angle and try to catch him with a short left hook (because he drops his right sometimes). Then jab out.

    Now, at least in the first round, he's gonna put on those earmuffs and bull his way past your jab at times. When he does, do that good work you do on the inside but then weave away, spin off an elbow, or jab out. Don't linger there because he'll just spread his legs and wing those hooks that sway judges.

    He likes to lean to the left when he wings a right to increase leverage. If you can anticipate that, step to your right so you can shoot a short left hook and catch him leaning that way. You'll knock him off balance. When/if you do, jump on him.

    When it is to your advantage, throw flurries/combos. But those should be exceptions. You want to control him from the perimeter with jabs and straight shots. That's how you can take over. Otherwise, you're fighting his fight.

    Amateur judges like to see a boxer. Give them Rembrandt.
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Cheers so much for both sets of advice.

    Also the answer to this quiz is the legs.
     
  3. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Almost -the answer is that force begins from your foot.

    That's why boxers are the punching experts and no other martial art comes close. We snap the hips while they often rotate the hips; but the key is that it all begins from the ground up. You need to pivot off your foot. You aren't doing that from what I could see. Your power will improve once you bend your knees a bit more when set and as that right shoots out, your right foot is pivoting sharply with it. Just a quick twist as you shift inward with the shot.

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    See Robinson's right foot? It's pivoting with the shot. Same deal with the left hook. Your left foot pivots in with the shot -pointing with the trajectory of that shot.
     
  4. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    **** me stoney, you should write a book on technique and analyzing styles
     
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    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ...It'd be a helluva lot easier than the history I'm doing most of the time. Thanks Jorodz.
     
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    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    i'd read the **** out of it:thumbsup

    and gpater, nice to see this thread man. WAR!!!
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Yeh I get exactly what your on about. Will work on it in the gym.

    Just finished my last day of sparring before the rematch. Worked on getting the jab out at the perimeter and spinning off at angles and it worked quite well so I will try my utmost to implement it on fight night.

    It would be a must have book for all boxers!
     
  8. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    i was showing this to my boy today, he's 15....he's started training under former amatuer irish heavyweight champion stephen reynolds...this fella.. http://www.rte.ie/sport/boxing/2000/0322/boxing.html

    reynolds was telling him he has a strong right which he was made up about, which then brought us to looking at this together.

    anyway....back on topic....all the best in the rematch greg...i'll be hoping here for you fella.
     
  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You should be proud you gave this guy a fight, because he's good.

    Take a note from his page. Look how calm he is; deliberate with his punching as well as his movement. Every shot has a purpose and he throws them solidly. He makes you lead and exert yourself all the while he is countering effectively. That's why he isn't winded at all at the end.

    You throw too many punches and they often aren't solid enough. You should also try to be smoother and not so "bouncy" in your movement. When you bounce you can't get leverage behind your shots. Every time your feet aren't planted a good fighter knows he can attack without having to fear an effective counter.

    Be calm enough in your guard to let the other guy lead at times. Don't feel you have to get off first with punches and flurries all the time. Be calm and think. Don't leave openings and don't waste punches and energy. Piece of cake right?:D

    Good work.:good
     
  10. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay, good. Remember this principle: when you are dealing with a matador, be a bull, when dealing with a bull, be a matador. Your mistake was trying to outbull a bull.

    One more thing -work on straight punching. You're looping your jabs and crosses a bit. If you are operating properly from the perimeter, those shots will shoot out like arrows. Bring them back into guard just as fast as you shoot them out. And keep him turning.

    If you do it right, be prepared because he's gonna turn up the heat. See if you catch him coming in. If you throw a dumb-dumb jab just to blind him in his rush for a split second and then turn over a right cross, physics will be your friend. Don't forget that pivot. Follow-up the right with a left hook ('finishing on your left') and spin off of it so you're not in front of him. Then resume a disruptive jab.
     
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    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A strong right cross is like going through life with a lugar. Good for him. I've been wrapping mine up at bedtime in a little silk blanket since I was 12 and giving it a kiss goodnight. Treat it right and it'll get you outta alot of jams.
     
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    I have only seen one other of your fights , obviously a marked improvement on that . Your punches are more compact and your defence is a lot tighter.I would like to see you stepping laterally , out and away, when your opponent backs you to the ropes, having said that you tucked up well when he did.

    One question, was your head guard loose? Because you continually nudged it with your right glove, in a saluting gesture, this can become a habit [Ali had it early in his career]. ATB with your future progress:good
     
  13. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good jab and good left hook

    thought the right hand is your best punch

    I saw a good 1-2 in the 2nd and very good going for the kill