Our sanctioning bodies really the problem?

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  1. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The 4 belts seem to get allot of stick, and allot of the time with good reason. But when you look at the top fights that have happened this year, between the best fighters in particular divisions, many of them have taken place because a sanctioning body has ordered it.

    These fights have or will only take place because they were ordered by a sanctioning body.

    Cunningham vs Ross - IBF
    Huck vs Alafoabi - WBO
    Cloud vs Johnson - IBF
    Pascal vs Dawson - WBC
    Pirog vs Jacobs - WBO
    Bradley vs Peterson - WBO
    Khan vs Maidana - WBA
    Marquez vs Katsidis - WBO
    Nishioka vs Munroe - WBC
    Kratingdaenggym vs Lee - WBA
    Perez vs Marez - IBF
    Moreno vs Cermano - WBA
     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    They are a big problem in that no sports fans outside of the hardcore boxing lunatics (ie. us!) can follow boxing to a reasonable degree any more.
     
  3. TommyV

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    Yes.

    If you had one sanctioning body and one set of rankings, they'd all be fighting each other to get to the number 1 slot.

    As it is, you can stake a claim to being number one by cherrypicking your way to a belt.
     
  4. rhinocoote

    rhinocoote mexican steamroller Full Member

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    at risk of sounding like a dunce....
    ...what do the boxing sactioning bodies gain by creating multiple belt champions ?-is it financial from sanctioning fee's etc,or is it an attempt to attract more t.v fights for exposure to more "fringe fans"?
     
  5. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Chisora didn't even know what belts he fighting for...he had to ask in the interview on SSN...i hope he was taking ****...i don't think he was.

    Tommy hit nail on head for me, I don't mind two belts, because in this day and age the way fighters go on i wouldn't object to two belts on the go. Obviously prefer one out and out champion. Although i've grown up in this multi belt area so it doesn't bother me as much as the older lads..;)
     
  6. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    Oh it's all about the money, the more belts, the more title fights, the more sanctioning fees. Why have your regular champion fight your interim champion, when you could have them each fight nobodies and get a cut from two "world" title fights.
     
  7. rhinocoote

    rhinocoote mexican steamroller Full Member

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    that was my gut feeling,whilst this still go's on,there's no marketing for an "unfair" sport?:patsch
     
  8. TommyV

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    :lol:
     
  9. robpalmer135

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    but you guys must see my point. Look at Andre Berto. He has faced 1 world level fighter in his career and it was because it was his mandatory.
     
  10. NSFW

    NSFW ESB interacial lovin... Full Member

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    Should it be 'Are' instead of 'Our' in the thread title?
     
  11. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see you point but if there was only one or less (my personal opinion is two is best) Andre Berto would have no chance of gettng near a world title and being the name he is without having to fight other top contenders or world class fighters.

    If there were only 2 belts at his weight they would be held by Mayweather and Pac. To get to the position he is in today to challenge he probably would have to have fought in recent years Cotto Margarito Mosley Clottey etcetc to be near a shot so he would have to face world class fighters if he wanted a sniff at the title
     
  12. TommyV

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    And yet if there was one sanctioning body and therefore one title, he wouldn't be the one who has it. Hence he would be forced to face better opposition if he wanted to win that title.
     
  13. robpalmer135

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    Yeh, I am not disagreeing with that. My point is they still make the best fighters. When promoters are tv networks are left to there own devices they come up with crap.
     
  14. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    Ah you've listed out a few good fights there, but how many terrible mandatory challengers have the orgs come up with over the last few years. And how many good fights have been put together by TV networks.

    Bradley vs Alexander is nothing to do with organizations (although I think one of them did have Devon as Timbo mando before, but whatever), and Matrinez vs Williams II and so on.

    I don't see the WBA forcing Gamboa vs John. Don't the WBA have a 3rd champion at featherweight, or am I wrong on that.
     
  15. robpalmer135

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    After Johns next fight in December, he must defend agaisnt Gamboa. After december they must fight eachother or 1 will get stripped.

    Agree allot of good fights get put together by TV, but how many bad fights get put together by TV. HBO are paying $1.25million for Berto vs Hernandez. HBO put Mora vs Mosley on a PPV.