Julio Ceasar Chavez vs Floyd Mayweather at 130

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  1. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Go watch their fights and then tell me whait you think. I bet you would give me an apology and call yourself an idiot, like I do.
     
  2. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't need to go watch them. I saw Chavez's career unfold before my eyes probably when you were taking a drag on a teet.
     
  3. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here's one I just RE-WATCHED recently. I'm not suggesting this is what happens to Floyd, but Roger was a very good Jr. Lightweight.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk6iAJqylzE[/ame]
     
  4. la-califa

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    No, not only basing Chavez' chances on Mayweathers struggle against Castillo. in as much as your basing Mayweathers chances on Chavez' performance against, fast, slick boxers at a higher weight than Chavez was effective at. You know before Whitaker, Chavez was undefeated in over 80 something odd fights. against all comers. He also had an impressive run at 130. defending his title over ten times. There was a fast, slick boxer with a better jab than Floyd, Who fough Chavez in his prime. He was brutally kayoed in two rounds
    . in the rematch He was pounded to the point where he quit on his stool. ( Oh & I bdlieve his name was also Mayweather). As far as Taylor is concerned. Zab Judah was very effective against in the early going against Floyd. till Zab stopped fiighting hard about the fourth round. Taylor would keep fighting hard, there is no quit in him. So I dont think Mayweather would outclass Taylor & Dominate him the way you make out. Plus you forgot two more catagories. Durability & heart. Mayweather is nowhere close to Taylor in those departments. Taylor was piling up points & winning the fight no doubt. but was paying a steep price as the rounds went by. Mayweather hasnt shown the heart to take this kind of abuce.
     
  5. Sister Sledge

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    I was born in 1968, nitwit.
     
  6. Sister Sledge

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    Unless you are an idiot, why would you stand in front of Chavez and let him hit you? Floyd is a better fighter than Roger. Everyone knows that Roger's chin was always his achiles heel. I never based my opinion of Chavez on the Taylor fight, I just said that if you base Floyd on the first Castillo fight, then why not just base Chavez on the Taylor fight?

    I am in no way trying to disrespect Chavez, but Floyd had the style that would always beat him.

    At 130 and 135, Floyd showed loads of heart and durability.
     
  7. sweet_scientist

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    Dedicated to Sister Sledge.
     
  8. Sister Sledge

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    You act as if I'm being owned. I will tell you one thing. Floyd is as good, if not better than Whittaker at the same weight. If you look at a common opponent with Chavez and Whittaker, it was Ramirez. Chavez had a hell of a hard time Ramirez before a cut stopped the fight, while Whittaker dominated him. Whittaker was robbed in the first Ramirez fight and with Chavez. Floyd has the same skills, with more pop. I'm not talking about WW Floyd. Mayweather was not afraid to fight anybody at the lighter weight and had balls and brashness, and the skill to back it up.
    You say he didn't have heart, but he beat:
    Genaro Hernandez
    Angel Manfredy
    ****** Juuko
    Carlos Gerena
    Goyo Vargas
    Diego Corrales
    Carlos Hernandez
    Jesus Chavez
    At SF, essentially cleaning out the division.

    At LW he beat:
    Emmanual Augustus
    Jose Luis Castillo twice
    Phillip Ndou

    At JW he beat:
    Demarcus Corley and Arturo Gatti

    He has a very good resume and didn't duck anyone of note at these weights. A lot of people actually thought Gatti had a chance when they fought. I think a lot of posters are using their disdain for Floyds attitude cloud their common sense. Floyd would outbox Chavez. It may close hard, but I think PBF would get a clear decision.
     
  9. WhataRock

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    You're owning yourself just fine with posts like that champ :lol:

    You have to relax a little...No one is saying Floyd isnt an awesome fighter, one of the best Ive seen. The fact he is getting matched with a guy like Chavez and is going pretty much 50-50 in this poll is testament to that.

    You're the one making quite silly assertions that Chavez couldnt hold Mayweather's jockstrap and talking as though Mayweather and Taylor are similar fighters..that Mayweather would win this easily blah blah blah.
    How dare somebody pick a scrub like Julio Cesar Chavez against a ATG like Floyd? Its madness isnt it.
     
  10. Sister Sledge

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    :lol: It's not a bad list, dude. You don't think it's good comp?

    Obviously Chavez has fought better comp, but Floyd did duck anyone up to this point.
     
  11. Sister Sledge

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    :lol:Please don't take me for a nuthugger. I think Chavez is one of the greatest fighters I've seen, but looked much better against certain types of fighters than others. No doubt, Floyd would have loads of trouble with him, but I do thing Floyd would win.

    The jockstrap line is just an over-exxageration. :lol: Don't take it to literal.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

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    Nah, that's Zab Judah. Good points otherwise, continue as you were.....
     
  13. sweet_scientist

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    I think Lora meant that Ricky could write a PHD on pub culture.
     
  14. WhataRock

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    Its not so much the list...Its just you seem to be jumping from point to point and not making any sense.

    Are trying to somehow use Ramirez-Chavez to justify your argument? Because you think Floyd is better than Pea..and Whitaker beat Ramirez easier than Chavez. :huh
    Chavez won that fight quite comfortably..and did it whilst showing Ramirez a hell of a lot more respect than he usually does.

    I dont feel Floyd ducked to many people and the reasons he couldnt fight them usually were fairly vaild..but plenty of guys he could have fought to enhance his legacy but didnt and fought some pretty average opposition in their place..Johnston, Prime Mosley, Tszyu, Margarito, Cotto, Spinks.
     
  15. natonic

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    I apologize. It was wrong of me to assume that age denotes wisdom. I'll just shut up now and let you continue bury yourself on this thread.
    Did you seriously reference ****** Juuko to strengthen your argument? Damn, I forgot about that win. ****, that changes everything. I apologize :lol:.