Clarence Henry, Bob Baker, Nino Valdez

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In the mauriello fight louis practicaly held him up and nailed him, louis held onto guys elbows and span them into the ropes. he always did this, the guy was strong.

 

He was obviously not a George Foreman but he wasn't exactly a tidy boxer either. He didn't win fights because of his great boxing technique, he won them because he was big, strong and had a powerful left jab in front of him.

Marciano would have won but it would have been interesting to see how the fight would've unfolded. Valdes had the reach of a super heavyweight. Louis was really a 200 lb fighter in his prime and Shkor wasn't any good at that point in his career. It would have given us some indication on how he could have done against the increasingly bigger heavyweights that followed Marciano's retirement.

 

Mauriello was a former middleweight though. Did you watch Louis against Cesar Brion, Omelio Agramonte, Freddie Beshore?

 

No, i dont think they were filmed. they were all tough guys. Louis was a strong guy. It would have been intresting to see how a marciano fight with valdes had of unfolded, im sure it would have compounded marciano as a legit ATG, as you say valdes was super heavy sized and we could make clearer comparisons had it happened. rocky would have been clearly favored.

 

Too bad more Valdes fights aren't filmed. The Moore and Satterfield fights were described as crowd pleasing brawls. I don't like his chances against Marciano though, especially based off the Satterfield fight. You can make a case for Moore outslicking the giant but Satterfield overwhelmed him. From whats written, Valdes willingly brawled with the smaller man at close quarters and paid the price, getting battered and bloodied in the later rounds, and being saved by the final bell. Described as being a very durable fighter though, he may have given Rocky a tough fight before finally going down.


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The Satterfield fight is on film, actually. It plays out pretty much the way you describe, although I think "saved by the bell" might be a bit of an exaggeration for how the fight ended. The way Valdes fought Satterfield was pretty much the way he always fought, though. Even though he was big (for his era) and rangy, it was his customary style to go on the attack and mix it on the inside rather than use his reach and fight from a distance - somewhat similar to Riddick Bowe. In the end, I'd say he was a pretty decent fighter at his peak, but his one glaring flaw (and ultimately his undoing) was that he basically had no defense, and relied on his sheer size and toughness to absorb punches. Even in fights that he dominated, he usually walked through a lot of punches. Within a couple years of reaching the top level, that type of fighting had burned him out. By the time he fought Satterfield, it seems like he was beginning to wind down, and within a few fights after that he like he was basically shot. He did manage a comeback in the late '50s and managed to work his way back toward the top of the rankings, but his intensity and punch resistance were gone, which was ultimately exposed by Chuck Powell, after which Valdes faded away.

 

Earl Walls is my grandpa : )

 

Do you think Rocky would have lost to a 21 year old Patterson.
My point being Rocky struggled to hit Moore and Moore struggled to hit Patterson.

Rocky swamped fighters, Patterson I feel had better single shot power than Rocky. If Rocky could not swamp him I think Rocky might of struggled.

Totally agree on the Nino Valdes fighter being the wrong type for Rocky I did not realise his defence was so bad though. I feel the big finn would have really hurt rocky he hit harder than walcott who really did hurt rocky three times in their first fight.

 

wow! I know he had good wins against rex layne and was a KO puncher but since all fighters wore hoods into the ring I have always wanted to know why earl was called "the hooded terror". I know he wasnt jewish...

 

That's quite a claim.