Calzaghes legacy is growing greater by the day

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Didnt need to. Joe was 37 and at the end. People would have said the same about Dawson as they do Lacy. But if Hopkins beats Pascal it looks all the better, and if not Joe beat Kessler, who beat Froch, who beat Pascal, who beat Dawson.. Like I said, all wins come back to Joe
     
  2. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    What makes you say black americans?

    Its majority of white fans.
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Toney was a CW before Joe even won his first world title :patsch.

    Consider Jones & Toney were at HW around the time Joe fought B MItchell. It wasnt of interest, and Joe wasnt on the radar at that time (understandably)

    Hopkins wouldnt fight Joe. Everyone knows this, Joe offered to go to America and Hopkins was offered a massive pay day, but turned it down to fight Hakkar for much less money.
    Joe beat Hopkins sandwiched between Hopkins best wins :lol:. Hopkins knew he wouldnt win and took the fight when he had all the advantages like making someone fight at a new weight and still lost
     
  4. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    :nono

    Boxing doesnt work like that.

    Hopkins has been shot for years, its only his craftiness that has kept him from getting beaten and knocked out.
     
  5. bailey

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    Hopkins was shot when P4P #3 and Ring LHW champ when Joe beat him :patsch scoring his best wins over Tarver, Wright and Pavlik :lol:.

    So your not looking forward to Hopkins fight with Pascal then and obviously werent one of the ones who wanted Hopkins to have a return with Joe then.
    Would you consider this even older version of Hopkins shot if he beats Pascal who beat Dawson?
     
  6. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why the **** couldn't they go to the UK?
     
  7. Wiirdo

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    Ward will eclipse Calzaghe's legacy. If he beats Abraham, Froch, Dirrell and Bute that ****s Calzaghe's legacy in the ass.
     
  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly. Joe was the champ and man of the duivision, but still when Joe said he would go to America, Hopkins backed out
     
  9. spud1

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    Dude are you implying that hopkins was prime when he beat those three fighters?

    Pascal is overated he really is.

    Calzaghe knew he lost that fight hence why there was no rematch.
     
  10. Boom_Boom

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    No

    The key to Calzaghe's legacy was Kessler, and since his career is practically over without accomplishing much Calzaghe's legacy grows weaker.
     
  11. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Big money and big fights are held in USA period.

    Also their purses would have been significantly higher due to bidders from casinos etc.
     
  12. bailey

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    Of course he wont :patsch.
    Kessler is considered a better fighter than those guys and Joe beat the undefeated version of him who beat Froch, who beat Dirrell who beat AA.
    Still. Abraham is a former MW champ whos big win is who? And has limited SMW resume.
    Froch beaten by Kessler
    Dirrell KOd by AA and beaten by Froch and hasnt even achieved as much as Veit or Mkertchyan even
    Bute well if you look at his resume its arguable that Lacys resume with Vanderpool, Tyspko, Reid, Sheika, Pemberton, Manfredo is possibly better.

    But that list dosent compare to
    Eubank bigger name and more accomplished than the above
    Kessler (undefeated champ)
    Lacy (undefeated champ)
    B Mitchell (2 time WBA champ and never clearly beaten until he met Joe) who has done more at SMW than AA, Dirrell and is arguable to Froch
    Reid done more at SMW than AA, Dirrell. Reid was considered desperately unlucky against Ottke arguably the 2nd best SMW ever
    Woodhall done more at SMW than AA & Dirrell

    Not to forget all the other fighters he beat
    Veit done more at SMW than Dirrell or AA
    Mkertchyan done more at SMW than Dirrell or AA
    Brewer
    Sheika
    Manfredo
    Bika
    Starie


    46-0 Ring WBO 21 defences, WBC WBA IBF takes some doing
     
  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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  14. bailey

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    So Hopkins backed out of fighting Joe in America for a big purse years ago because???
     
  15. ninebar

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    How many prime all time greats did he beat?