Jose Napoles KO7 Ralph Charles - Superb display of pressure

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a57sXaDS4c[/ame]

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    I love this performance by Napoles.

    It is a great display in keeping the pressure high on an opponent whilst expending very little energy in return. Napoles does this by popping out a jab just to keep Charles busy and by using quick economical side steps to cut off the ring. While doing this Napoles would be idling in about 3rd gear but when he sees his openings he quickly goes up through the gears to 5th and unleashes nice straight right counters and some nice two fisted attacks.

    Although Napoles is pretty half arsed at times in this fight, it shows his class.

    Also brutal KO finish.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :good

    Interesting, don't you think, that he misses frequently with the lead uppercut at the beginning of the fight but then can't miss with it by the end?
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I think early on Napoles is a bit dismissive of Charles and thinks h can do exactly what he wants so is a bit lackadaisical with his uppercuts. As the rounds wears on he starts to tighten up and sharpen up as he looked to get Charles out of there.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think it's the case that the Napoles pressure works on every single facet of Ralph's game, making him vulnerable to punches he was slipping only rounds before.
     
  5. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Napoles got hit a bit in this fight though, seemed like Napoles just wasn't giving much respect to Charles's power.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Worth it though. Charles ends up a man without a plan, and that's worth shipping a few punches for!
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Dunno McGrain, I definitely see a marked improvement by Napoles as the rounds went by, but as you say, maybe the pressure did detract from Charles in every way.

    TGA, Napoles didn't give a f*** about Charles, early goings, hence why he got tagged a bit.

    This is not vintage Napoles, he is much better in some other fights. I just love the way he applies pressure here.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    After settling down after a few rounds it was "business as usual" for Mantequilla.
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Charles threw quality sharp punches early on and was a solid enough if not particularly talented fighter with a rep as a big puncher(some of the right hands Napoles took further proved his great jaw imo), i don't see much evidence to explain away any marginal success he may have had by saying napoles was being lazy, or wasn't bothered about him.May be true, but you can't know for sure.


    Jose was fighting more or less the same way he always did as cobra says imo.This is one thing i see too much on here when fights involving a great against a contender are being analysed.It's too often one way with traffic with everything being analysed from the benefit of the doubt of the great or superior fighter, even when there isn't any need for it.
     
  10. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's also a reason why Napoles, while being a very sound defensive fighter, surely falls short of the "great" mark that so many bestow upon him in that regard. He'd usually take plenty of good shots in his fights, mostly jabs you figure he could've avoided were his defensive timing what it's often made out as. Not saying he was sorely lacking in that regard by any means, just not on the level of the great defensive fighters.
     
  11. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    However, with that said, his style has to also be taken into account for the amount of punches he usually took. He was a very offensively oriented fighter, and one of the best defensively of that ilk. Any fighter with that style is going to eat their share of shots. Napoles was one of the best at avoiding the more effective ones given his approach.
     
  12. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    btw i'm not trying to say there aren't fights where the more talented fighter does give rounds away or take shots because he's coasting, i just don't see it here.Now stuff like Sal sanchez vs Castanon or Roberto Garcia i would agree with(but not the ford or Castillo fights).Sanchez is a good fighter to watch to see the difference between lethargically allowing another fighter more success than they should be having and just being involved in competitive fights with contenders who have the tools to fight back well.
     
  13. McGrain

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    Two good posts right there, right on the money for me. The way I see it, Napoles just broke his man down. Carpenter, who had a good eye, actually refers to it in commentary. It's a great example of pressure and commitment breaking down the other guys fight-plan and rythym over a distance by strategy rather than tactics.