Terrible ignorance on display here atsch. Veit - Only lost to fighters who were world champs or who became world champs. Veit gave Braehmer his first defeat, Braehmer who is current WBO LHW champ :smoke, and beat fighters like Mock, Perdermo and Brewer Starie - Gave Clinton Woods his first defeat. Thats Woods who so many come on here saying they respect him, but fail to notice that he lost to Starie who Calzaghe beat Mkertchyan - After losing to Calzaghe went on to beat the undefeated European champ who was 26-0 and held a over Tsypko who looked unlucky to many against Lacy and had beaten current European champ and now WBA mandatory B Magee Bika - Had never been clearly beaten and drawn technically with 3 time WBC champ Beyer. Bika won the contender series :nut, and is a good enough challenger after only having less than a round of action in a year for Ward, 4 years after Joe beat him Manfredo - Was in The Ring top 10 at the time of the fight, but was brushed aside by Calzaghe Hope you are now a bit more educated
OK you really are a delusional ignorant fool Calzaghe did pull out against Johnson more than once with injury. He had a history of injuries and pulling out, but lets not pretend he was scared. He pulled out 3 times before getting in the ring with Sheika, and pulled out before facing Lacy and looked what happend there. But you also forget that Joe beat Sheika who beat Johnson and when Joe was ringside with a view to fighting Johnson, Johnson lost and blew his opportunity, so Johnson blew his own chance with constant losses whenever he stepped up, losing to Sheika, Ottke, Hopkins, Branco, Sosa and Vanderpool just to name a few. So hardly anything special that blew his own chances. Toney was a CW before Calzaghe had even won his first SMW title dummy, but remember that Jones and Toney were fighting at HW around the time Joe was beating Mitchell so was off Jones radar (rightfully). Now heres where you really are stupid Pudwill was a late sub for T Tate, who backed out. W McIntyre was a late sub for A Echoles who pulled out, and D Telesco changed his mind atsch. Hopkins backed out against Calzaghe. These great elite Americans, who are they because Calzaghe beat Americas best SMWs that were willing to meet him in Sheika, Brewer, Manfredo, Mitchell and Lacy. As said Echoles, Hopkins and Tate backed out. So PLEASE who are these elite Americans? Woodhall was rated in The Ring top 10 when Joe beat him. Veit only lost to world champions or fighters who became world champs and has wins over Lock, Perdermo, Brewer and Braehmer the current WBO LHW champ. Anyway Read below if you dont know the facts, educate yourself some more, before making way off the mark delusional comments :deal You see Darryl, you really havent a clue :nut
When minions get pwned by facts they result to name calling, a sure sign they have been taken apart. As you can see, President has now shown himself to be an ignorant fool, who commented without knowing the facts. Another delusional fool who cant except Hopkins backed out of fighting Calzaghe. President wned again
And what proves you right - -and what will always prove you right -- is the abundance of visual evidence showing that Roy Jones was so freakishly talented, so outlandishly brilliant, that he will always be watched for the sheer joy of it. People will not pop in the old Calzaghe tapes to admire his handiwork in 20 years.
Exactly that. Alot of dumb posters on here never saw Calzaghe until after he beat Lacy, and havent seen what Joe could do, yet they have all watched Jones beat up nobodies. Still Jones is a proven cheater and loses my respect for that reason. Calzaghe beats Jones at any stage, but thats not the thread. The thread is how Joes resume is still improving and that all results lead back to Calzaghe. Whoever wins the Hopkins - Pascal fight, wont matter because both their names lead back to Joes undefeated record
Hopkins beat that ass and then he picked on a way past it Roy Jones and tried to legitimize the win even though it's evident that Jones was clearly shot and Jones still knocked him on his ass! Calzaghe's best win is Kessler who got taken apart by the green Andre Ward which speaks volumes for slappy Joe's resume
Clearly wrong as Joe beat Hopkins clearly. The 2 judges that scored for Joe were very clear, the one that didnt, was obviously bias as they scored round 11 to Hopkins atsch, a clear Calzaghe round that even Hopkins nuthuggers agree to. Hopkins was Ring LHW champ and P4P #3. He also beat Hopkins at a weight he hadnt fought before, sandwiched between Hopkins best wins. Calzaghe beat an undefeated healthy Kessler when past his prime, not a unwell double visioned fighter being fouled by headbutts, who had already been exposed. After a fighter is beaten by a champ he is often fed to a young undefeated prospect to feed on, who now has a game plan, but that means very very little especially over a double vision suffering fighter
this line of argument leads to the conclusion that Marciano is the best HW of all time. After all, Marciano's record is "always improving". Calzaghe was an excellent fighter, but lets not exaggerate.
Regarding: 1. If Hopkins thought he was winning, why would he be faking low blows trying to get points deducted? Do you really not know the answer to this? Here's the answer: Hopkins is obscenely old. He gets incredibly tired in the later rounds. This on account of his extraordinary age. So when he gets hit low, he makes the most of it -- to buy time, to get a breather. He's done this now in his last few fights. Including against Jones, who he was way up on the cards against.
Hopkins also tried the same thing when he wasnt hit low, but he didnt do it in his fights with Tarver and Winky or against Pavlik after. That should tell all
but he did do it against a shot-to-hell Roy Jones who he had not lost a round to. which is the only counterexample needed. Unless the claim is that his balls really hurt against Jones but against Calzaghe his balls were A-OK so he must have been trying to get a point deducted. Which begs the question: how do you know so much about Hopkins' balls?
I saw it as a Hopkins fight and the only bad thing i can say about Calzaghe is that he was unlucky he didn't get the bigg fights earlier in his career.
I havent claimed to know anything about Hopkins balls, but stated he faked low blows. Yet you wrote his balls were A-OK atsch, so how do you know so much about his balls :think. Dont try and twist your perversions onto me. Hopkins fakes low blows etc when in trouble or hurt, against Jones recently (where Hopkins didnt win every round atsch) Hopkins could have had a count against him, because the shot that put him down looked debateable and was no different to the shot D Green landed on Jones. That result could have been a KO win for Jones