When should Roberto Duran have retired?

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  1. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    when you have achieved as much as he has it dosnt really matter that he lost a lot of fights at the end of his career. But if you could preserve his record at his best where would you advise duran to retire.
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    1. After destroying the lightweight division and beating the then undefeated Sugar Ray leonard. His record at retirement would have been 72-1.

    2.After the Hagler fight, another great performance, although a loss but extra vicrories over Davy Moore and Pipino Cuevas on his legacy. Record would be 77-5 but would not have been kod 2 by Hearns

    3. After defeating Barkley, he would have added the middleweight crown to his collection but would have suffered losses against Hearns, Benitez, Hagler, Laing and sims. his record would have been 85-7

    or 4. wouldnt change a thing, his record is what it is despite the losses:happy
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Duran should have retired, ideally, after he beat Barkley..but then he fought Leonard...THAT'S when..realistically..he should have retired. Hanging around and getting mopped up by the likes of Pazienza..and then a past it Camacho...TWICE each..was disgraceful...they don't seem to know when to quit...like Monzon...as big a disaster that he was in his personal life, at least he was smart to go out at the top..what..there's just a handful of greats...Tunney, Marciano, Monzon...who walked away at the top and NEVER to come back..what a rarity.
     
  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    His past prime losses are pretty meaningless to me...His out of shape performances when he was pretty near his prime is what hurts his legacy IMO.

    Part of his greatness was coming back from these setbacks though and I couldnt see his career panning out any other way.
     
  4. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wouldn't change a thing.
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tough one. I recall thinking after his superb losing effort against Hagler,that it would 've been a good time to call it a day. Then,six years later,I thought exactly the same thing after the Barkley fight. Very few of the great ones get out after a win.
     
  7. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I might say after the Hagler (Great loss), but then I would be missing one of the top wins ever , in beating Barkley.

    He seems to be in good metal state, so I would leave it , but if I was around in that time would say to retire a lot earlier.

    Just like I thought that Pac was crazy for fighting Oscar
     
  8. Chinny

    Chinny Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :rofl

    I think after beating the Blade, especially with the hearns link. Would have been perfect
     
  9. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ideally after that savage beating over Moore. In front of the New York crowd which loved him so. It was a magical night. And that final right would have been the perfect capper to a wonderful career.
     
  10. tommy the hat

    tommy the hat Active Member Full Member

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    He should not have taken the William Joppy fight or have been fighting at that point and that was in 1998 so I would say after the 2 Pazianza fights where he looked respectable would have been the best time to get out.
     
  11. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    No way, the Barkley fight was a huge win for a 37yo fighter.
     
  12. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Definitely after the Hearns fight. I know that hindsight is always 20/20 and he really wasn't that old but the Hearns fight was a horribly one-sided destruction and he had already made enough money to be set for life. It was a slow, steady crawl into obscurity from there.
     
  13. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ideally, after Barkley. However, how many of us would walk away from the multi-millions to fight Leonard in the rubber match? I still wish Duran didn't take that bout though because for as long Leonard had legs and Duran was past 30, Duran wasn't going to beat him -and his wife gambled his purse away anyway.
     
  14. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    after he lost to Lawlor in 1991. At that point he accomplish all he was going to. He would have avoided being stopped by Joppy, who never should have stopped him since he was that great. And we would have had to see the joke fights with Pazienza and Camacho which were more like sparring sessions. Actually Hearns should have probably retired after Barkley in 1992. so both Hearns and Duran should have retired in the early 90's as Leonard first did after Norris. It would have been fitting, the guys from the 1980's retiring at the beginning of the 1990's.
     
  15. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    AFter his win over Barkely.